»Why Bush is a menace and doesn't deserve a second term«
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 Quote: example iraq, that latest report showed that they wee just buying time until sanctions lifted to pursue their weapons. But this is just speculation. You cannot call it a preemptive strike against terorrism when Iraq was one of the weakest countries in the world and had nothing to do with terrorism. Quote: that's the exact arguement against kerry, if he can't decide on funding the war, how would he ever be able to decide to commit troops to war? scary thought Of course he can decide. It's one of the typical Bush distortions. Did you know the Cheney voted against the Apache? Quote: if it was misinformation is it considered lying? he was just stating the "facts" given to him...that's just the same as blaming bush for the misinformation as i've seen done on IMO quite a bit It's lying because the US in the UN council has to abide to higher truth standards. It was KNOWN that there is only 1 source for the "Iraq has WMDs" and that was an alcoholic. It was KNOWN that the CIA had no spy on the ground in Iraq. Yet Powell stated it as "hardcore facts". Dis-gust-ing. You have to turn the places around to see what I mean:
That is exactly the situation today! GIVE ME A FREAKIN' BREAK. Your view of China would suffer, to say the least. posted by knn |
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| in-my-opinion.orgPoliticsBush, Kerry, IraqWhy Bush is a menace and doesn't deserve a second term |
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The ONEder Man: Quote: How can Bush stand up against terrorists if he cannot stand-up against Kerry that's the exact arguement against kerry, if he can't decide on funding the war, how would he ever be able to decide to commit troops to war? scary thought I know Cheney used this against Kerry ("If Kerry cannot stand up against Dean how can he stand up against terrorists?"), but Cheney's statement is a baseless accusation. Stand up against another Democrat? What the heck? Just another distortion by Cheney (A very intelligent and handy distortion though). While my statement is what everyone could SEE: Bush could not stand up against Kerry in the debates. posted by knn |
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 Quote: Bush could not stand up against Kerry in the debates. we KNOW bush will stand up to the terrorists, do we KNOW kerry will? is that a risk we are willing to take? i like a quote dennis miller ♣ said the other night on the tonight show... "i'm voting for bush because he is not over thinking this." "I think he wakes up in the morning, puts 2 feet on the floor, scratches his balls, and says, 'let's go kill some fucking terrorists!' " btw is you don't know dennis miller, he's a comedian who was on saturday night live ♣ and hbo with his own show, use to be a democrat and is now a republican...he's one of the most articulate people on tv today... i wait for the day he runs for president! 
posted by The ONEder Man |
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Quote: we KNOW bush will stand up to the terrorists So far I didn't see any proof except for activism. Quote: 'let's go kill some fucking terrorists! ... and whether or not we will destroy civil rights and torture some innocent guy... who cares, fuck USA, kill terrorists. But, wait, before I do that, let's attack Iraq. posted by knn |
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Quote: we KNOW bush will stand up to the terrorists
So far I didn't any proof except for activism what proof do you have from kerry? he voted not to go to iraq in '91 desert storm 1  my dad even had to go to that war, yet i supported it
posted by The ONEder Man |
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Quote: what proof do you have from kerry? he voted not to go to iraq in '91 desert storm 1 my dad even had to go to that war, yet i supported it As I wrote at IMO → How George Bush (senior) started the first Gulf War#4776 Desert Storm was based upon a lie. After the event it seems that John Kerry was one of the guys who saw thru this lie.
And I would appreciate it if this "he voted for this, he voted for that" would stop. It's NOT that easy. If you vote for something you vote for a bunch of other things (for example how to finance what you vote for). Quote: what proof do you have from kerry? We have enough proof from Bush that he is unable to get a coalition together and that he wastes YOUR money, The ONEder Man while the cargo/ports/bridges remain unsecured. posted by knn |
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Quote: if it was misinformation is it considered lying? he was just stating the "facts" given to him...that's just the same as blaming bush for the misinformation as i've seen done on IMO quite a bit
It's lying because the US in the UN council has to abide to higher truth standards. It was KNOWN that there is only 1 source for the "Iraq has WMDs" and that was an alcoholic. It was KNOWN that the CIA had no spy on the ground in Iraq. Yet Powell stated it as "hardcore facts". Dis-gust-ing. But what he said – that Iraq sought uranium – is just what both British and US intelligence were telling him at the time. So Bush may indeed have been misinformed, but that's not the same as lying. exactly what i said, interesting... Bush: The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. hmm also british intelligence, not u.s. but who gets the blame? The Butler report said British intelligence had "credible" information -- from several sources -- that a 1999 visit by Iraqi officials to Niger was for the purpose of buying uranium:
Butler Report: It is accepted by all parties that Iraqi officials visited Niger in 1999. The British Government had intelligence from several different sources indicating that this visit was for the purpose of acquiring uranium. Since uranium constitutes almost three-quarters of Niger’s exports, the intelligence was credible. oh well blame the CIA posted by The ONEder Man |
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Quote: exactly what i said, interesting... He has been warned to not say it. Yet he did. That's what I call deception. And it gets even worse: Dick Cheney gave the order to check this Niger report. The guy finishes the report saying "Forgery" and Dick Cheney claims he never read it. Give me a break. They were only a few rooms apart in the same building. Dick and George WANTED this threat in their speech. Also his way to not admit anything and to stop the search for truth is disturbing... I believe if Kerry would have been the president on 9.11 a 9/11 commission would have been put in place the next day. Bush however, did everything he could TO STOP such a commission. And when he couldn't stand the pressure anymore he chose soft askers. posted by knn |
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Besides you forget 1 more thing: Saddam WAS under scrutiny these days. The inspections were halted because Bush rushed into war. posted by knn |
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you must be forgeting the previous10 YEARS of inspections then right? if you call that rushing then that's your opinion, not mine... earlier i was talking about the UN not having a spine, so when we attacked we were helping the UN gain some legitimacy   posted by The ONEder Man |
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 If that wasn't long enough - they were pulled out prematurely If it was - there was nothing to find. The other possibility of course, is Bush wanted to go in before they finished just in case there was nothing there.  posted by Marl64 |
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Quote: you must be forgeting the previous10 YEARS of inspections then right? You are stating it as if there had been anything to find... there was NOT. Quote: The other possibility of course, is Bush wanted to go in before they finished just in case there was nothing there. Exactly. And this is supported by the way he treated the UN and Iraq. Whatever the UN and Iraq did was wrong in his words. "Iraq better deliver a complete report" -> Iraq delivered 10'000+ pages -> "Iraq tries to confuse us with this massive report". Geee... 
posted by knn |
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Quote: You are stating it as if there had been anything to find... there was NOT. if iraq had nothing to hide why break all those resolutions all those years? what purpose did that serve if they were as innocent as i school girl holding a puppy and a balloon? posted by The ONEder Man |
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Quote: if iraq had nothing to hide why break all those resolutions all those years? Because Saddam liked to stand up against the UN and US. Saddam wasn't liked in the Arab world but they always viewed him as someone who doesn't succumb to the US. posted by knn |
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Quote: Saddam wasn't liked in the Arab world then why didn't they take him out? if it is like you said they had one of the weakest miltary's in the world.. posted by The ONEder Man |
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