»Why does TV allow showing violence but censor nudity/sex?«
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 The ONEder Man: mymla: Russia is also a pretty Christian country these days, and they don't allow even breasts with covered nipples. At least I don't remember any, except special channels at special time i thought i saw on real tv or maximum exposer, one of those programs that had a weather lady in Russia that would strip as she delived the weather. Maybe it wasn't Russia... that's Naked News and it's filmed in Toronto, Canada.  The ONEder Man: and how did this topic get onto christianity? what about countries other than the US that are less christian that still show all the violence and censor nudity? to hint that the underlying reason in the US is this might be true, but what of those other countries? what is their excuse? I believe xianity is a key component to censorship in the US. I can't speak for other countries, but there are a number of people here from other countries that should be able to provide perspective. The ONEder Man: like in japan where they can show bukkake but not a single pubic hair? where they can show murder on the news? i'm sure japan is not a christian majority, this is an example but kinda off topic... Japan is indeed a weird set on this issue. They censor alot of stuff period in anime for everyone all the time. However back in the day and up until now, creators of show and anime have found ways to work around these issues. i.e. You can show penetration of a man into a woman but you can show a tentacle going into a woman. So there are alot of weird loopholes that don't get plugged that makes them unique. Japan has a strong stance of "Do whatever freaky shit in private, but you can only do this in public". And as you guessed, Japan is not largely xian by any means which can account at least to some degree why they don't see things the way the xian US does. In fact, they find much of xianity humorous/weird. I would love to hear from others with viewing/cultural experience in other coutries to provide us with perspective/differences in censorship. posted by volonteshiva |
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 volonteshiva: Japan is indeed a weird set on this issue. Japan is weird generally. In India sex in movies is a taboo, too. But it's a strange country too. Feeding street rats, bathing in corpse water etc... posted by knn |
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knn: volonteshiva: Japan is indeed a weird set on this issue. Japan is weird generally. Japan is awesome unless you are woman that doesn't want to get felt up everywhere in public. knn: In India sex in movies is a taboo, too. But it's a strange country too. Feeding street rats, bathing in corpse water etc... Come on, corpse water is awesome! Especially if you get a stray, detached finger to get those hard-to-reach spots on your back! posted by volonteshiva |
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knn: In India sex in movies is a taboo, too. But it's a strange country too. Feeding street rats, bathing in corpse water etc... By the way, Indians killed approximately 150 million female embryos in the last years. This proves also how sexually crazy a people can get. posted by knn |
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 volonteshiva: You need to say something I disagree w/ but respect so that I can apply the good points there to. Hehe, ok, I will see whether I can do that  volonteshiva: Perhaps violence is harder to root out than sex. You can shame and guilt people away from sex, but violence can fight back. Nah, I am not sure it is really so. Both violence and sex are necessary for survival, so theoretically they should have the same importance. How about this: I suppose you could agree that the modern world is more or less a man's world. Partriarchy in everything: religion (none prominent with a female god(ess)), leadership (no woman president as yet), fashion (women fashion is based on the idea to be attractive for men), etc. I would agree that all the feminist thing is changing it gradually, but so far... So, this being a men's world with men's basic values, the predominance of violence is quite explainable than: to show other male who is the leader here, you use force. The amount of your sexual "wins" also counts I guess, but first and foremost is the physical strength. The TV is both ways oriented, but things like news and politics are more or less man-oriented. Thus we get the amount of violence shown. 'Cause men won't scream "Oh poor guy he was just defending his country", they will say something like "Good job! Show 'em idiots". And it always was like that. Whereas sex is something men boast less of and maybe can be even ashamed of it, because sex often is like subdueing to a weaker being=a woman. Sex is more women world, as well as family. Therefore, there's no tradition of talking about sex openly. What do you say? P.S. volonteshiva: mymla:
"Everything you wanted to know about Russia, but were afraid to ask/had no one to ask". How about that? 100% hell yes! Great! Wanna start? It's kind of hard for me to raise questions about my own country, sorry  
posted by mymla |
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 After so many posts I am offering here now the real reason behind sex suppression: As you know mainly Christians are known as anti-sex protagonists. There are the following reasons: 1) They have small testicles or some other disorder 2) They make money with prostitution, gambling and porn 3) They have some perversion 4) They have some kind of drug history. Drugs can make one lose the pleasure of sex. Reason 2) is the reason why they want to suppress a free market for sex and want to canalize everything into THEIR shops. Commandment #11: You shall buy porn in my shop only. OR: They are lawyers and earn money by sueing/prosecuting sex publishers/pushers. Reason 3) is the typical reason for some of the typical Christian statements. Would you run around shouting "We have all sinned against elephants! We have all sinned against music!" No. EXCEPT if you DID INDEED sin against elephants. Thus now you know what to think about "Christians" who shout "We are all sinners. Sex is sin. Sex is bad.". Either they are mafiosi/lawyers or have small testicles (like Ashcroft) or love small boys. All other Christians who believe that sex is "sinny" are too influenced by the above mentioned groups (= are too dumb, easy hypnotizable (alcoholics) or children). posted by knn |
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 knn: 1) The have small testicles. what in the hell does this have anything to do with anything? did you mean to write c e n t s?
posted by The ONEder Man |
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The ONEder Man: what in the hell does this have anything to do with anything? No, I meant small testicles or any other genital illness/disorder. Getting an inferiority complex when watching porn. Then running around shouting "Porn should be forbidden. Noone should watch it" Since the topic is sex & crime, see it this way: If they had some muscle disorder or asthma or something, they may run around and tell "Too much crime, too much violence" posted by knn |
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 knn: No, I meant small testicles or any other genital illness/disorder. Getting an inferiority complex when watching porn. Then running around shouting "Porn should be forbidden. Noone should watch it" Hmmm I think you are dismissing more reasonable arguments against pornography. Feminists have taken my view that pornography sends bad messages about how to act in society to encompass not only children, but people in general. They believe that the effect of pornography on attitudes is responsible for rape and other violent behaviour towards women. You will have noticed earlier that I said a similar argument, but claimed that adults would be in a better position to filter out fantasy from reality for themselves. The radical feminists who are against pornography do not give any man this amount of respect. Perhaps if there were more women on this forum you might find this thread to contain a much less one-sided and much more heated debate. No one here seems to be putting up much of a fight to say that sexual content can have a corrupting effect even though there are plenty of people who should argue such things...   There's a short explanation of what happened with their attempt to pass the anti-pornography law here. posted by fatpie42 |
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fatpie42: Feminists have taken my view that pornography sends bad messages about how to act in society to encompass not only children, but people in general. They believe that the effect of pornography on attitudes is responsible for rape and other violent behaviour towards women. This is disproven by the reality. Name the countries where porn is forbidden: Afghanistan, Saudi-Arabia, Nigeria, Iran, Soviet Union... Hmmm noticing something? Countries of pure suppression/women suppression. Now name the countries where porn is allowed... Hmm, human rights are pretty OK there. In fact, porn can be seen as the major liberator. Where porn blooms, freedom is guaranteed. In any way. The feminist rage against porn is maybe hate driven (anti-men in general) or out of an inferiority complex or out of lesbianism. The hate against men amongst lesbians is much more imminent than against women amongst male gays. ›Andrea Dworkin‹ Ugh! No wonder this woman is against porn. Maybe she is against beauty spas and models, too. Moreover don't forget that feminists can be Christian, too, thus can fall into the groups I mentioned above. Moreover, do you know the joke about the difference between women and men? If you (as a man) meet someone at a party who is dressed like you you can actually become FRIENDS.
In other words: Underneath all the female fixation on body (make-up, dresses, jewels) lies the constant fearful observation that another woman might be more attractive. Thus something jealous gets triggered if a woman watches porn. posted by knn |
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One reason that I wouldn't want to see everyday people sex on basic tv is that it is boring... Unattractive people doing uninteresting sexual activities. Porn is inherently voyeurist and you want to see something alluring, something you can see or experience in your normal life. Now I think porn is also a rebellious act against the status quo/repressed sexual culture. And nowadays it's driving force is perhaps the $$$$. Someone likely won't have sex with you if you just go up to them and ask them, but offer then $5000+ and see what happens. Clearly this is a simplistic sumation, just wanted to throw in some items. posted by volonteshiva |
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I Dunno if it's that I was Brought up in Scotland Or if it's like this in other Countrys. When in School from primary - secondary You see violence On a baisic level but still violence none the less. As for nudity and sex, these are things that children should not be subject to cause of a little thing called INNOCENCE A child can see violence on the news and it's easy to explain why but try explaning the sexual act to an innocent. KRONK! AtoMoBoT  posted by AtoMoBoT |
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AtoMoBoT: A child can see violence on the news and it's easy to explain why but try explaning the sexual act to an innocent. I don't think that nudity on is TV is suppressed to spare parents posted by knn |
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AtoMoBoT: As for nudity and sex, these are things that children should not be subject to cause of a little thing called INNOCENCE A child can see violence on the news and it's easy to explain why but try explaning the sexual act to an innocent. Parents do it all the time! -They forget to lock their door and a kid bursts in and sees them having sex. -They see animals having sex at the zoo. -They hear it talked about at school. -etc Many kids today are having sex at 13 and younger! This is shocking but only so much since it was often the norm for girls to be pretty much sold into marriage around 14. There is no way most of these kids fully appreciate all the consequences of their sex acts. And beyond that, there is no way they know how to have enjoyable sex, different positions, etc etc and NOR should they. I would wager that these kids' parents have never talked to them about sex, or instead gave them some lame, blow-off "the talk" session that didn't give the kid any useful/appreciable information. If you explain to a kid btw 5 and 10 or so that has witnessed some sex act that it is a natural thing that adults do to show their good feelings for each other and that it's a normal part of nature for all creatures in order to procreate then most kids aren't going to be devastated for life. Indeed, kids that young should def not be exposed to gratuitous sex acts. It can often disturb their developing minds. But parents often are so clueless as to how to explain that they lie to their kids. The stork brings the babies, santa brings your gifts, the tooth fairy, easter bunny, etc etc Stop lying to your kids from their earliest days! Once innocence encounters lies, then it will use them. ALSO... why in the hell is violence so easy to explain? Saying the good hurt the bad guy is often a horrible oversimplification even to a little child. Stop lying to your kids. Tell them the truth when they ask questions! posted by volonteshiva |
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mymla: The TV is both ways oriented, but things like news and politics are more or less man-oriented. Thus we get the amount of violence shown. 'Cause men won't scream "Oh poor guy he was just defending his country", they will say something like "Good job! Show 'em idiots". And it always was like that.
Whereas sex is something men boast less of and maybe can be even ashamed of it, because sex often is like subdueing to a weaker being=a woman. Sex is more women world, as well as family. Therefore, there's no tradition of talking about sex openly. What do you say? *Rubs back of sore neck from shaking head up and down so profusely in agreement* I agree. Case closed, turning off lights. posted by volonteshiva |
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