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 holy_of_holies: It doesn't prove that at all!
So let's see the evidence! I don't know if there can be evidence with such things as secret agencies. However we know from Amazon (which is an US company) that it shares it's data with US agencies. So if you are a foreigner and you were buying books through Amazon (even through a non-US Amazon) then you may be stopped at the border. Let's simply assume that NSA CAN and WILL in the future record your calls. Whether the full calls (= content) or the connection data, triggered by "trigger words" or not. posted by knn |
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| in-my-opinion.orgTechnology, Computers, Science, InternetComputers and InternetWith Skype you can call anyone, anywhere for free, forever. |
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holy_of_holies: You are dissembling. "Tasks" have nothing to do with mandate. Give me a break. A mandate is the authority and power.  posted by knn |
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knn: Let's simply assume that NSA CAN and WILL in the future record your calls. Whether the full calls (= content) or the connection data, triggered by "trigger words" or not. Sure, they can record my calls, but will they? I see no reason to assume that they will. It's not like I'm out there with a public presence that could be perceived as a threat to national security. I think all this kind of rhetoric is paranoia. As soon as you start saying, "Everything is being watched, everything is being recorded," I can't agree. I don't think that will be possible even in the future. As soon as the medium becomes so easily conquered and contained, whether privately or governmentally, it will be overtopped by a new medium, like network television was by cable, and television in general by digital media. posted by holy_of_holies |
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holy_of_holies: Sure, they can record my calls, but will they? I see no reason to assume that they will. They will. Right now someone has to do something suspicious to get triggered. But if you'd offer the NSA: "Look, dear NSA, we have a method to search thru all recordings and combine them with money movements and journeys and the computer will spit out a list of the top100 suspicious guys" then, believe me, they will do it. It will water their mouth and wet their seats. holy_of_holies: I think all this kind of rhetoric is paranoia. It's interesting that your mental illness shows up as paranoia where it shouldn't but refuses to be paranoid where it should. holy_of_holies: I don't think that will be possible even in the future. Yes, and men will never go to the moon. posted by knn |
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 Skype encrypts it's calls "end to end". Case closed? Article at:  Full privacy report at: skype.com… [PDF] "Executive summary" of above at: share.skype.com… [PDF] Skype provides its users with protections against a wide range of possible attacks, such as impersonation, eavesdropping and modification of data while in transit.
Skype uses only standards-based cryptographic functions and the report confirms that each of these functions conforms to its standard and interoperates with reference implementations. The evaluation report considers a number of such attacks, including the following: Man-in-the-Middle attacks, replay attacks, password-guessing attacks, weaknesses in the use of checksums, side-channel attacks, and rollover attacks such as the one used in the wellknown ASN.1 attack vulnerability. The evaluation found Skype to be protected against all of these attack scenarios. However, the evaluation turned up two implementation weaknesses: The first was the unsuitability of using CRC-type checksums to validate data and the second was an unbounded network payload decoding routine. Neither of these bugs could cause compromise of a user’s communication, but both could result in the denial of service to users. Since receiving the evaluation report, Skype has corrected both of these issues. posted by ryder |
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 ryder: Skype encrypts it's calls "end to end". Case closed? No, Skype will have to implement a decrypting possibilities for agencies. posted by knn |
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 knn: ryder: Skype encrypts it's calls "end to end". Case closed? No, Skype will have to implement a decrypting possibilities for agencies. Ah I remember this thread. This is the one where I was not paranoid enough for knn. Please, let me sit at your knee and learn the secrets of domestic intelligence-gathering, knn-sensei. 
But really knn, what are you so worried about? Haven't you read any cyberpunk? Eavesdropping will be the norm rather than the exception in the future, so it's not some conspiracy by the NSA or whomever to try to deprive you of your rights. posted by MindSlave |
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