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So many Christian churches forbid divorce.

I think that's unfair:
• Did they warn you before marriage?
• Did they help you to find the right woman?
• Did they teach anything valuable how to achieve "marital happiness"?


No, instead they try to convince you that "since the marriage is holy and approved by a priest" (= it was god's will to marry your partner), ANY failure therefore must be your own fault.

A form of self-protection, since their authority would fail if they admitted, that their "holy wedding" wasn't holy.


posted by knn

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The Cheating Wife is respecting God's union? (by not seeking divorce before gettin' some extra from the milkman)White laugh

posted by Marl64
  

Statistics show: Christians dicorce more frequent



Divorce rates among conservative Christians were much higher than for other faith groups, and for Atheists and Agnostics.
...
George Barna, president and founder of Barna Research Group, commented: "While it may be alarming to discover that born again Christians are more likely than others to experience a divorce, that pattern has been in place for quite some time. Even more disturbing, perhaps, is that when those individuals experience a divorce many of them feel their community of faith provides rejection rather than support and healing. But the research also raises questions regarding the effectiveness of how churches minister to families. The ultimate responsibility for a marriage belongs to the husband and wife, but the high incidence of divorce within the Christian community challenges the idea that churches provide truly practical and life-changing support for marriages."


However I think this survey is bugged:
• Calling yourself a Christian doesn't make you one
• Since Christians are more uneducated and more poor than non-Christians this may influence the divorce rate too
• Does a divorce BEFORE becoming a Christian count?
• A real Christian doesn't live with a women in a "trial relationship". Thus any breakup is immediately a divorce, while non-Christians simply split.


But back on topic:
Barna's results verified findings of earlier polls: that conservative Protestant Christians, on average, have the highest divorce rate, while mainline Christians have a much lower rate. They found some new information as well: that atheists and agnostics have the lowest divorce rate of all. George Barna commented that the results raise "questions regarding the effectiveness of how churches minister to families." The data challenge "the idea that churches provide truly practical and life-changing support for marriage."

Yeah, my initial claim.


posted by knn
  

Christianity blinds you



Now here is some real interesting data from the Unification Church, where the leader (Reverend Moon) marries couples randomly in a mass ceremony (please correct me if I am wrong):
Michael Inglis, a member of the Unification Church staff conducted a survey of some of the couples who were married in two mass marriage blessing ceremonies during 1982. One was in New York City and involved 2,075 couples; the other was in Seoul Korea and involved 6,000 couples. In many cases, the founder of the church, Reverend Moon, paired up the couples. Participants in the study were chosen from among those individuals who had worked in the U.S. If the 294 subjects, 48% were American citizens, 24% Japanese, 14% Europeans, and 14% other. Inglis found that:
• 82.6% were still married to their original partner.
• 17.4% were divorced from their original partner.


Data from the Unification Church compares very favorably with those from all other faith groups. This is in spite of two known stressors:
• Most of the couples had known each other for a very short period before marriage.
• The couples averaged 2.52 children, compared with 1.6 for all Americans. Children are a stress factor in marriage.


In other words: If 17% divorce rate is the mathematical divorce rate for randomly married couples, then one can conclude that Christians either have less knowledge about the right partner AND/OR that Christianity is attractive to (socially) uneducated people (who have less clue about the right partner) AND/OR that priests confuse.


posted by knn
  

it actually



depends on the kind of church. not all churches do that (marry off anyone who comes to their door). am i right to say that church also marries gays?

for example, my church back in malaysia, teaches to marry within your church movement only. your spouse must have the same vision you have. also, the pastor tries to make sure the marriage is alright( the marriage is compatible, they've known each other for awhile, etc). the members of the church check with the pastor. if in case they don't agree with the pastor, they can simply leave the church. so, this kind of church tries to take care of marriages more.

posted by sangu
  

feeble-minded Christian-haters



knn:
Did they warn you before marriage?
Did they help you to find the right woman?
Did they teach anything valuable how to achieve "marital happiness"?

Most, if not all Christian Churches teach that divorce is immoral before, after, and during marriage.
Many churches offer "singles nights" and what-not, if that's what you're looking for.
Many, many churches teach marriage classes before marriage, and have counselors available after marriage.
knn:
ANY failure therefore must be your own fault

Any failure, aside from marital unfaithfulness of the spouse, IS one's own fault. You gave this person your word that you would be with them for life. Either you committed purgery, or you didn't. Simple as that. Your blame game is unneccessary.
knn:
A form of self-protection, since their authority would fail if they admitted, that their "holy wedding" wasn't holy.

A completely baseless attack. Not even worth a response.


posted by stinkz
  If popular thought feels 'science' to be different from all other kinds of knowledge because science is experimentally verifiable, it is mistaken.





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