»I consider the Christian religion as very simple«
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 Actually I consider the Christian religion as very simple. Too simple? *Who created the universe? God! *Who created all life? God! *Since when is god? Since the beginning. *Why does X happen, why doesn't Y happen? Only god knows! *Is there more to us than our bodies? No, ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Really simple. No questions answered. That even goes so far, that Christians blush and tell you, that it's blasphemic to ask "such" questions. Well-believing for some is "Believing blindly" posted by knn |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsI consider the Christian religion as very simple |
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 knnknn: Actually I consider the Christian religion as very simple. Too simple?
Who created the universe? God! Since when is god? Since the beginning. Why does X happen, why doesn't Y happen? Only god know! Is there more to us than our bodies? No, ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Really simple. No questions answered. That even goes so far, that Christians blush and tell you, that it's blasphemic to ask "such" questions. The belief of some is "Believe blindly" Nothing but blue pills. This is exactly why I don't like Christianity as a religion at all. I'd rather believe in God they way I want to and try to find the answers by myself. posted by Echelon |
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Quote: This is exactly why I don't like Christianity as a religion at all Moreover because the biblical lack of answers other things have to replace this lack: *what MEANING holidays have *HOW something has to pronouced in the msss *that you have to suffer because it's god's test *WHO is a saint and who not *how to INTERPRET the bible since 2000 years *what is kosher and what is not (mixing milk with meat (e.g. cheesburger) is not!) All those procedures, that have actually no meaning in one's everyday's life, except if you live them the whole day. BUT (( here comes the clou )): This very lack of answers and the riddleness of the bible keeps it going since several thousand years. Just as the matrix forum: No answers -> Many discussions posted by knn |
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 As was said in the great comedy Father Ted... "that's the great thing about catholicism, it's so vague and no one knows what it's really all about!"  posted by Crossfade |
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 Quote: *what MEANING holidays have
*HOW something has to pronouced in the msss *that you have to suffer because it's god's test *WHO is a saint and who not *how to INTERPRET the bible since 2000 years *what is kosher and what is not (mixing milk with meat (e.g. cheesburger) is not!) eh...isn't this more catholicism than christianity? 
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 Most denominations of Christianity: - don't care much about reverence for saints - don't worry about pronunciation in mass (after all it's generally spoken in the country's native tongue - even in orthodox churches!) - don't worry about Kosher food. In fact, as far as I know - NO Christians worry about Kosher food because of (1) the point where Jesus says that what goes through the body is not what makes you ritually unclean and (2) Because of a passage in the book of Acts where God allows Peter to eat any kind of animal. Festivals are seen as important and suffering is seen as a test, but then again why not? posted by fatpie42 |
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nocturnal_anonymous: Quote: *what MEANING holidays have
*HOW something has to pronouced in the msss *that you have to suffer because it's god's test *WHO is a saint and who not *how to INTERPRET the bible since 2000 years *what is kosher and what is not (mixing milk with meat (e.g. cheesburger) is not!) eh...isn't this more catholicism than christianity? I wasn't talking about Christianity either. I was talking about biblical religions, including Judaism. posted by knn |
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Quote: I wasn't talking about Christianity either. well...this guy said: oscargabrielp: This is exactly why I don't like Christianity as a religion at all. I'd rather believe in God they way I want to and try to find the answers by myself. and you continued with: Quote: Moreover because the biblical lack of answers other things have to replace this lack: so...i thought you were talking about Christianity... posted by nocturnal_anonymous |
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Quote: so...i thought you were talking about Christianity... The bible's old testament and the new testament is the source/root for countless of religions, including to Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Mormonism and thousands of sects thereof. Each of those sects states that they INTERPRET the scriptures correctly. Just another proof that the the bible is... unclear and lacks results. Because if there were results (e.g. people could elevate) then there were less questions which sect is correct and which not. posted by knn |
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 It's incredible how you can consider christianity to be simple. From which reference frame can you consider christianity to be simple? Either you are talking about something else, perhaps God-TV christianity or something like that, or you are biased. Let's consider catholicism for instance. It's evidently the most highly evolved religion. It's far more rational or advanced compared to other religions. Compare with hinduism : probably oldest surviving religion, but it hasn't come very far from primitive nature-worship and climate-personification. (wind god, rain god, etc). But look how far catholicism has progressed. How can anyone who has ever read Aquinas, or the Catechism say that christianity is a simple religion? Even descartes' work can be considered part of christian theology and philosophy. Granted, his proofs are quite flimsy. But which other religion can even be subject to rational scrutiny? No other religion has such a clearly defined metaphysic or onotology. Even buddhism which may be the only comparable one, is based on words that are meant more to be enigmatic linguistic constructions rather than provide clarity. btw note that it is in the most primitive religions, such as the old form of hinduism(its rather hard to define 'hinduism' as a single religion) that 'past lives' is an essential belief. posted by ralph_angelus |
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 ralph_angelus: From which reference frame can you consider christianity to be simple? Simple in terms of ANSWERS. It's complex in terms of tradition secondary literature, but simple in terms of answers to typical religious questions. If you disagree then please answer my questions from my first post: "Who created the universe?" "What is the meaning of life?" "Why does X happen, why doesn't Y happen?" "Why did god create Satan?" "Why can good people die by crimes/accidents?" ralph_angelus: Let's consider catholicism for instance. It's evidently the most highly evolved religion. It's far more rational or advanced compared to other religions. Yeah, but that's a gigantic bloat. All the hirarchy, costumes, books, prayers and saint worshipping are merely "complexifications" (hey, they had 2000 years) of merely one thing: Jesus came back after his death and now they wait for his return. posted by knn |
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knn: Actually I consider the Christian religion as very simple. Too simple?
*Who created the universe? God! *Since when is god? Since the beginning. *Why does X happen, why doesn't Y happen? Only god knows! *Is there more to us than our bodies? No, ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Really simple. No questions answered. That even goes so far, that Christians blush and tell you, that it's blasphemic to ask "such" questions. Well-believing for some is "Believing blindly" That sounds like Judaism. Surely you are missing out all the complicated bits which follow from the new testament? How is God both man and God at the same time? How does dying save the sins of mankind? How do we share in the salvation provided by Christ? If it involves knowing Jesus and trusting in him, does this not involve a level of understanding not open to most people? posted by fatpie42 |
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fatpie42: Surely you are missing out all the complicated bits which follow from the new testament? Not really. In the new testament are more questions than answers, too. "How does dying save the sins of mankind?" is NOT answered in the bible. Just look at the thousands of Christian denominations. Everyone has an OWN answer. What the heck? They only agree in 1 thing: "Jesus is the saviour" which in itself is the simplicity I denounce. posted by knn |
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 knn... it looks as if you are finding an excuse to hate Christianity. You complain that it doesn't give you simple answers, and instead raises questions. Then you complain that it is too simple. I hardly see a thread like this as an actual open-minded appeal for more understanding. I feel you are merely hammering to us what we already know about you. We all know you dislike Christianity. Why must it keep getting repeated? Is there something you're hiding? Are you, deep down, questioning your own stubborn faith in yourself? posted by stinkz |
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 stinkz: We all know you dislike Christianity. How would you know that? I never stated something like that. It's my duty as an admin to start controversial topics that lead to a thorough discussion. posted by knn |
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