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The news is currently ramming down our throats the fact that we won something at some sporting thing somewhere. White laugh

"Such courage" was one description of some guys who row in a boat.
"Exciting climax" was another, describing two boats passing a white stick at about ten miles per hour

OK, you get the idea I'm not big on sports.

But I am after all watching a news channel, not one of the numerous sports channels I never tune into, so I find it a bit off that 90 % of what is shown is either sports, weather or stock market shite.

But it's not just that, it's the stupid way they describe athletes doing what athletes do.

So in recognition of "people who do a job", I'd just like to say.

"Thank you to my Bin man, who showed such determination and courage in achieving his goal of removing rubbish from my bin. He came expecting to lift bin bags and that's exactly what he did - much to the delight of those who pinned their hopes on his success"-

"People like him, make us proud to be the fat slobs who only ever talk about stuff, they are an inspiration to us all. And we hope this man can go onto continue piling crap into a big truck for many years to come".

Now I'm going to see if there is any more news from some trendy muppet in war torn Iraq, the place is collapsing around him, but he still managed to gel his hair.

I say news, 'cos it's actually little more than his opinion about things, as he's too worried about getting his trendy jacket dirty to risk leaving his hotel room to see what's really happening.

posted by Marl64
  

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Hailing sports is actually sad



Considering that sports has actually hardly any influence on our everyday lives (in opposite to politics) the cheering over a won trophy is just irresponsible and perverted. Set your George Michael free

posted by knn
  



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Considering that sports has actually hardly any influence on our everyday lifes

i've seen a lot more inspiring sportsmen than i have political people sorry to say...maybe it's the everyday lies..i dunno

and i think sports does impact society more than you say...

that's like saying art has no influence on our lives because it doesn't have an immediate result, but i beg to differ


posted by The ONEder Man
  I know where you live. I will send a rape commando -- knn

No influence



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and i think sports does impact society more than you say...

Where is the impact? If you live in, say, Germany and Germany wins the soccer world championship (as they did 1 year ago) then what influence has this on your everyday life?

But wait until some ugly, unknown EU beaurocrats allow software patents.


posted by knn

what impact does sport have on society



well

in scotland...one of the biggest reasons for the continuance of sectarian violence(catholic v protestant) was centred around the rivalry between the "old firm" teams of rangers and celtic...started mainly as a competition between protestant steel workers and catholic ship builders and soon became the 2 dominant football teams in scotland

the rivalry fuelled segregation of schools and areas of glasgow that still exist...all being stirred up and continued through the excuse of football...

this has lead to countless murders over the years

despite the attempts by the clubs now to stamp it out...the "hardcore" fans still chant sectarian songs

sport is probably the only large bastion of racism in society that is shown on a massive public scale in many countries

on the flip side

i met many of my friends whilst in the pub watching scotland getting gubbed by some third world war torn hell hole where they struggled just to get 11 players with 2 legs... White laugh

supporting a team is probably the last trace of clan culture in western society...it gives a sense of unity and social inclusion to those who may have no other connection with society

so it has its ups and downs

but to say that it has little impact on society would be wrong...infact i would go as far as to say that sport now has a bigger influence that the church does...but that's my opinion

and on a related point...there is a church of diego maradona in argentina(if you don't know who he is...don't ask an englishman White laugh )

posted by the anomaly
  man is only half himself
the other half is a bright thing
he tumbles on by luck or grace
for man is ever a blind thing

Religion



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as to say that sport now has a bigger influence that the church does

Sure, if you treat it as religion.


posted by knn
  

sports influence



if a little kid sees and is inspired by what michael jordan does while he levitates in the air he might join an after school sports program, which in turn might keep him from the "bad crowd" or drugs, where he may become a leech on society rather than doing well in school...is that a good influence? i would think so..

back to my original argument, how many kids have seen a presidents speech and been inspired to go into politics? i would say not that many..

posted by The ONEder Man
  

Atomic kitten vs. Atomic wars



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is that a good influence? i would think so..

Yeah, but you can accomplish that with many things. For example country music (a kid sees Dixie chicks an becomes an artist) or ice-cream (a kid eats yummy ice-cream and decides to open a restaurant). Yet the influence of Dixie Chicks or ice-cream is far less than tax increase (= politics) or atomic wars (= politics).

Oh, wait, you are from the US right? Yes, the US is different since sports plays a big role in schools like rarely in other countries.


posted by knn
  

Re: Atomic kitten vs. Atomic wars



knn:
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is that a good influence? i would think so..

Yeah, but you can accomplish that with many things. For example country music (a kid sees Dixie chicks an becomes an artist) or ice-cream (a kid eats yummy ice-cream and decides to open a restaurant). Yet the influence of Dixie Chicks or ice-cream is far less than tax increase (= politics) or atomic wars (= politics).

Oh, wait, you are from the US right? Yes, the US is different since sports plays a big role in schools like rarely in other countries.

ok so in that first part you admit every aspect of art inspires humans, even sports, that's good...

now the second part..yes i'm from the US and you can't tell me other countries don't start out from childhood teaching their young to play soccer?(most countries) or whatever sport they are good at?


posted by The ONEder Man
  

Not like in US



Not like in the US. In Europe they don't give a damn if you are good at sports (except if you want to study sports at the university).

Exchange pupils who visit the US for 1 year report how important sport is treated in the US. You can "be SOMEONE" by being good at sports. This is laughable in most other countries, where sport has something of "other unimportant stuff about noone really cares". Unfortunately one might add.

posted by knn
  

no one cares about sports in other countries?



have you gone mad? why do i hear about a different soccer countries rioting every other week? that sounds pretty serious to me

posted by The ONEder Man
  

Sport in the U.S.



Knn, yeah, you're right. Sports does give indivduals the chance to be someone here in the U.S. I know many people who couldn't afford to go to college but went on an athletic scholarship. Because these individuals were good at sports, they were given the opportunity to further their education.

And let me guess, your next remark is going to be what about those that aren't good at sports. Well, believe it or not, you can still get full scholarships in things like theatre, music, art, and, oh my God!, academics.

Also, saying that cheering for a trophy is irresponsible and perverted is wrong. Look, just because you're not huge on sports doesn't give you the right to hate on those that do and vice versa. It's a matter of belief. For some, college football on Saturdays is a religion. If that is what that somebody needs to help them get through the week, day, or life you have no right to tell them they're wrong. It's the same thing if politics, art, or music is your outlet and some jock-asshole comes along and starts giving you shit.

posted by GP
  

No influence



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no one cares about sports in other countries

I never said that. I said that a win of a soccer team has basically no influence of our everyday's lives. I stand by that.
• Your team wins, you go home.
• A political party wins, and it can happen that they take your home away.



posted by knn
  

It's about the impacts



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Also, saying that cheering for a trophy is irresponsible and perverted is wrong.

I didn't say that. I said, that the difference in cheering is sad: Your team wins the world championship and the capital city is cheering like mad. A politician lowers the income tax and noone cheers. That's what's disturbing. Because being a world champion has basically no influence, while taxes or criminal laws (e.g. p2p) have a huge impact.


posted by knn
  

Music yes, sports no



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For some, college football on Saturdays is a religion. If that is what that somebody needs to help them get through the week, day, or life you have no right to tell them they're wrong.

Now you are talking about some personal involvement. That is a different story. For you personally, music or sports may have a big impact, that's OK. But cheering if your soccer team is world champion, while not cheering when the better political party wins is ... strange.

Even cheering when your preferred "pop idol" wins makes more sense, since this has really an impact on the music world (= more songs with your favourite singer get produced). But I see no impact when your favourite sports wins.


posted by knn
  



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