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 A fantastic website that lists the sources and bible places for many beliefs of Jehova's witnesses. I know that not many are Jehova's witnesses, but this site is valuable nevertheless. Why? Maybe you know that JW don't practice any "traditions" as does for example the Catholic church. Thus every belief is based on the bible (and interpretation thereof) and NOT on any traditions (like Christmas etc). Thus you find here the reasons and arguments for many, many beliefs, e.g. why masturbation is bad (because it's homosexual) and why the UN is "the beast" and on which planet god lives. Nicely ordered all is.  [CLICK HERE TO VIEW THIS PICTURE] [CLICK HERE TO VIEW THIS PICTURE] posted by knn |
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 Quote: masturbation is no mere innocent pastime but rather a practice that can lead to homosexual acts. Oh Yeah, and how long does this take?  Quote: The habitual practice cripples his social and emotional development, hinders his attaining a healthful outlook and attitude toward the other sex and toward people in general. It can 'turn the person inward' upon himself, making him introverted. Or it can, and frequently does, lead into homosexuality, in which the person, not satisfied with his lonely sexual activity, seeks a partner for mutual sex play. Which is pretty wierd from a group of people who take the bible literally and freely admit Quote: True, the words "masturbation" and "self-abuse" are not in the Bible. But yet they feel qualified to second guess the word of God. A bit presumptious I think 
posted by Marl64 |
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Just checkout why they condemn oral sex: watchtower.ca No, as seen by the fact that several states of the United States have for long had laws against precisely such practices, classifying them as forms of "sodomy" "If these forms of intercourse are not "contrary to nature," then what is?" Huh? Little fantasy they have. And more: Unnatural practices in connection with sex in marriage, such as oral and anal copulation, have caused some of God's people to become impure in his eyes. But The Watchtower kept above this morass of filth However, the featured texts are presented in chronological order, thus to be fair, one should read the bottom texts too, since they may revise former. posted by knn |
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Quote: Did you know, for example, that mothers and fathers who stroke the genitals of their fretful babies to keep them quiet are unwittingly encouraging them to become masturbators later on? Eh? Parents stroking the genitals of fretful babies? Does this happen? 
Certainly it's the first time I've heard mention of it outside an abuse hearing. 
Forgive me if this accepted medical practice somewhere, but I have to ask why this was even tried. 
posted by Marl64 |
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 Quote: Quote: Did you know, for example, that mothers and fathers who stroke the genitals of their fretful babies to keep them quiet are unwittingly encouraging them to become masturbators later on? Eh? Parents stroking the genitals of fretful babies? Does this happen? Certainly it's the first time I've heard mention of it outside an abuse hearing. Forgive me if this accepted medical practice somewhere, but I have to ask why this was even tried. Well, Michael Jackson was a Jehova's Witness in his youth you know...  ...I don't know if he still is...
posted by Echelon |
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Quote: Well, Michael Jackson was a Jehova's Actually I think only his mother was. Not the father. Don't know for sure. I don't think Michael Jackson ever went from house to house "Can I talk to you about god, oooohoo, shamone" posted by knn |
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Avoid Independent Thinking
From the very outset of his rebellion Satan called into question God's way of doing things. He promoted independent thinking... How is such independent thinking manifested?... For example, God's organization has from time to time given warnings about listening to certain types of immoral and suggestive music, and about frequenting discos and other types of worldly dance halls where such music is played and people are known to engage in immoral conduct... Yet certain ones have professed to know better. They have rebelled against such counsel and have done what is right in their own eyes. With what result? Very often they have become involved in sexual immorality and have suffered severe spiritual harm. 
posted by knn |
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 knn: Thus every belief is based on the bible (and interpretation thereof) and NOT on any traditions (like Christmas etc). Why does KNN think that this is somehow better? posted by ralph_angelus |
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 ralph_angelus: Why does KNN think that this is somehow better? This is not better but more honest. Imagine you are god and write rules and regulations (Terms of Service ) and the followers add and subtract whatever they want stating that their addition or subtraction is based on tradition. Lame.
But Catholicism is more fun. All the singing, church art, the pope.
posted by knn |
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knn: Imagine you are god and write rules and regulations (Terms of Service ) Assuming that the Bible fell out of heaven, which it did not. If followers could add stuff then under his guidance, why not now? knn: But Catholicism is more fun. All the singing, church art, the pope. Why is it so frikkin obvious that I'm a catholic or is it not? posted by ralph_angelus |
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ralph_angelus: Assuming that the Bible fell out of heaven, which it did not. If followers could add stuff then under his guidance, why not now? Yeah, adding to the bible which is then accepted by the followers (exactly what the mormons did) is fine. But not inventing sin tax (= sinners have to pay to be forgiven), the pope, a maria cult, saints etc... posted by knn |
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knn: Saints and Popes are not biblical
But not inventing sin tax (= sinners have to pay to be forgiven), the pope, a maria cult, saints etc... There you go again.. who says doctrine has to be biblical? It's rather curious, because the Bible is famous because of the Church(lets leave the debate about who wrote it alone for a second), and now people are using the Bible to discredit the church.. You can have whatever exegesis you want so even being 'biblical' doesn't guarantee that something fell out of heaven. It takes more than that.. endorsement by lot of people in black clothes and red sashes posted by ralph_angelus |
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ralph_angelus: There you go again.. who says doctrine has to be biblical? Noone. But if you want to know what's really written in the bible you better stick to God TV or Jehovah's witnesses rather than the Catholic pope. ralph_angelus: It's rather curious, because the Bible is famous because of the Church and now people are using the Bible to discredit the church.. Exactly! That's why I wrote that the complains about the Catholic church are actually "flimsy". After all it was the oh-so-bad Catholic Church that makes it possible nowadays that we can have discussions about Christianity. If it wasn't for the Catholics we all were Muslims or so. posted by knn |
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 ralph_angelus: knn: Imagine you are god and write rules and regulations (Terms of Service ) Assuming that the Bible fell out of heaven, which it did not. If followers could add stuff then under his guidance, why not now? Who's to say who is under his guidance and who THINKS they are under his guidance? posted by volonteshiva |
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knn: That's why I wrote that the complains about the Catholic church are actually "flimsy". After all it was the oh-so-bad Catholic Church that makes it possible nowadays that we can have discussions about Christianity. If it wasn't for the Catholics we all were Muslims or so. Well, the complaint about the church not really giving a crap about priests' boy live doesn't seem very flimsy in my book. It has been going on for a long time in the catholic church and the mother church doesn't seem very interested in the problem. Catholism is equally to blame for the conflicts w/ Muslims stretching back to the Crusades and beyond. posted by volonteshiva |
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