»Da Vinci Code - I've found the big hole in the theory.«
|
|||
 The holy blood is almost certainly linked to the lineage of the merovingian kings. They claimed to have secret knowledge and to be directly descended from Christ. Never was there a more obvious political fabrication for personal gain. It seems from the book that the holy grail is linked to this family lineage. We are told that the Mona Lisa is actually based on a self portrait of Leonardo Da Vinci. Yet when we are told about the last supper the fact that the woman is generally considered to be the disciple John drawn with female characteristics is completely ignored! The idea that the M in the painting could be linked to Merovingian seems like a strange thing to ignore? Maybe Leonardo knew about and even believed the claims to their lineage - who knows? Or maybe the M means something else entirely... The quote from the gospel of Phillip was the most appallingly constructed argument ever and I'm surprised I haven't heard more people pointing this out... If you change the word companion for the word 'spouse' or 'wife' the whole passage becomes nonsensical. Originally the passage is asking why Magdelene is loved more than the disciples. Once changed, the passage is showing the disciples becoming offended by Jesus kissing his wife and asking why he loves his wife more than his disciples. Never was a more stupid question ever asked. The claim that Jesus' divinity is not shown in the gnostic gospels is laughable to anyone who has actually read "The Nag Hammandi Library". Anyone have anything to add or any questions to ask? posted by fatpie42 |
|||
|
|||
| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsDa Vinci Code - I've found the big hole in the theory. |
|
|||
 fatpie42: ...the fact that the woman is generally considered to be the disciple John drawn with female characteristics is completely ignored!... Now why would he paint a man like a woman? That makes no sense. I always thought it was Mary anyway. fatpie42: ...Or maybe the M means something else entirely... What Like Mary or Magdelene? fatpie42: ...If you change the word companion for the word 'spouse' or 'wife' the whole passage becomes nonsensical. So Why do it? Now I don't buy the whole theory, but if the idea is that the Merovingions are the result of a secret blood line decended from Christ, then it makes sense that they weren't married. It wouldn't be much of a secret if Jesus had gone and told everyone that he and Mary had done the nasty. 
As to the need for marriage - isn't Marriage a blessing from god on a union between two people? Wouldn't any union that Jesus enters into (by the very nature of who he was) be blessed by God? So a quickie behind the temple to preserve his bloodline would still be OK by this logic. Or did I miss the point you were making? posted by Marl64 |
|||
|
|||
|
|||
|
I was quite tired when I wrote the post, but the basic point is this... Ever heard of the 'divine right of kings'? James the first and Charles the first after him (In England) both claimed that they had been chosen to rule by God and thus were free to do what they wished in spite of the wishes of Parliament. The Merovingian kings are laughing all the way to the bank if they can convince their state that they are the descendants of Christ. So there you go, that is what they said. Since San Greal (Holy Grail) is originally seen to be written as Sang Real (Royal Blood) it makes sense to say that the holy grail is simply a confused reference to the Merovingian bloodline. Leonardo Da Vinci is unlikely to have any link to the Merovingian kings, but if he does then he might well have used the M to represent them. If the M can mean ANYTHING then it can mean Mary or Magdelene, but there's no obvious reason given in the book why it should refer to either. As for why John would be drawn as a woman, that is an easy question to answer. Leonardo often drew very controversial images, such as the one where the baby of John the Baptist is blessing the young child of Jesus while Mary is shown with a slicing motion where John the Baptist's head might be if he were older. J the B was, of course, beheaded. It is noticed in the Da Vinci Code that Mona Lisa shows many similar aspects to self portraits done by Leonardo and it seems likely that the Mona Lisa is, in fact, a self portrait of himself as a woman. Why would it seem so strange for him to do the same with the disciple John? - the reason why it can't be Mary is that there are 13 people in the picture. Jesus and the 12 disciples. posted by fatpie42 |
|||
|
|||
|
|||
 Quote: Wouldn't any union that Jesus enters into (by the very nature of who he was) be blessed by God? So a quickie behind the temple to preserve his bloodline would still be OK by this logic. Jesus said that it is better to stay unmarried. It's better however to marry if staying unmarried would make you suffer. Quote: Da Vinci Code - I've found the big hole in the theory. I don't understand this thread. What has the DaVinci code to do with Merovingians? posted by knn |
|||
|
|
|||
|
|||
 Does anyone know where can I get a .pdf or .doc or .txt version of "The Da Vinci Code"? 
posted by Echelon |
|||
|
|||
|
|||
|
Didn't you read the Da Vinci Code? The Merovingian kings were the offspring of Mary Magdelene (or so they claimed). Naturally Dan Brown was fairly vague on this point to avoid personal ridicule for his ridiculous plot... Also it was Paul and not Jesus who said that it was better to remain unmarried. Paul was prepared to allow marriage to avoid becoming enflamed with passion. Funnily enough there is a painting in the Louvre based on this text. A man has been having sex with a prostitute, a sheep and a llama (or something along those lines) and in the background his wife is being taken off to hell for allowing her husband to become enflamed with passion. LOL! posted by fatpie42 |
|||
|
|||
|
|||
|
oscargabrielp: Does anyone know where can I get a .pdf or .doc or .txt version of "The Da Vinci Code"? Dial a Donkey
It has .txt, .pdf and even the audio book. The .pdf is 883K in rar format. I'd upload it but I would want to get into trouble for encouraging piracy 
I've not read the book itself (which is a work of fiction) but have looked into a lot of the "history" on which it's based. [CLICK HERE TO VIEW THIS PICTURE] posted by Marl64 |
|||
|
|||
|
|||
 i didn't like the book. i heard about the theory behind the book along time ago and i don't really care for it. sure secret societies and stuff interests me but i don't like scary ones. i read the book in its entirety cause like my whole family told me it was the greatest book ever...i still think LOTR and my favorite book by dean koonz called seize the night are still better than that book. its pretty dumb posted by Agent Zero |
|||
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote: Didn't you read the Da Vinci Code? Is this the nonsense with letters being splattered thruout the pages of the bible or so? posted by knn |
|||
|
|||
|
|||
|
knn: Quote: Didn't you read the Da Vinci Code? Is this the nonsense with letters being splattered thruout the pages of the bible or so? You're probably thinking of "The Bible Code". The "Da Vinci Code" is a novel containing a theory that Jesus and Mary Magdelene were married and had a daughter called Susan. It's the biggest pile of sh*t I have ever read. posted by fatpie42 |
|||
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote: Jesus and Mary Magdelene were married and had a daughter called Susan. It's the biggest pile of sh*t I have ever read. Well, if it's a work of fiction so why bother? Or is it taken seriously by anyone? posted by knn |
|||
|
|||
|
|||
|
But not because of the way it is written. This novel is appallingly written. The thing which has made it popular is it's theological conspiracy theory. A lot of people have been surprised by the ideas put forward - the problem here is that the ideas put forward are a pile of crap. Not only that but they are planning to make a movie of it! posted by fatpie42 |
|||
|
|||
|
|||
|
fatpie42: Jesus and Mary Magdelene were married and had a daughter called Susan. Susan! You gotta love that, might as well have been Brian knn: Well, if it's a work of fiction so why bother? Or is it taken seriously by anyone? The book (and it's fictitious plot) are based on a real (and much older) conspiracy theory - or rather several of them tied together, and whether or not you buy into the theory, it's an interesting read none the less. I suppose it's like tales of Atlantis, Hidden knowledge of the Aztecs and perhaps the bible itself; People like to beleive that there is some hidden meaning in all this. I just like puzzles and mysteries and trying to see things differently So I find the idea that this elite gang of people have been leaving secret message and riddles in plain sight throughout history, intriguing and fascinating. (perhaps we should have a "priory of Sion" thread to explore some of these mysteries and puzzles  )
posted by Marl64 |
|||
|
|||
|
|||
 Quote: The "Da Vinci Code" is a novel containing a theory that Jesus and Mary Magdelene were married and had a daughter called Susan. First of all, the daughter's name was Sarah, not Susan. Second, I think the book is a great novel. It's marvelously written because it makes you keep reading and reading, and leaves you hanging in a lot of spots that are to be revealed later in the book. The plot starts to develop more and more, as more people become involved in the conspiracy. The aspect of Mary Magdalene and Jesus that is portrayed in the book might not be entirely accurate, but that's obviously because Dan Brown's major field of study isn't Gnostic Theology and he wanted his book to be more controversial to get more sales. It's a brilliant book nonetheless, and I'm looking forward to finish it by wednesday. So please, NO SPOILERS!
posted by Echelon |
|||
|
|||
|
|||
|
Have only read up to the point where they reveal that the holy grail is mary magdelene's remains. Couldn't be arsed to read past that because I found the book so insufferably poor! posted by fatpie42 |
|||
|
|||
1, 2, 3, 4 Next
Goto page
1, 2, 3, 4 Next
 Register Log in |
The time now is 22 May 2012, 06:59 php B.B. |