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Would you prefer another political election system, where your vote may be more than just 1 vote?

   
Please select max. 11 answers
(selections above limit will be ignored)
Those who have a higher IQ have more votes
16%
 16%  [ 6 ]
Those who have a degree / scientific award have more votes
13%
 13%  [ 5 ]
Those who pass special knowledge tests (e.g. about the current political situation) have more votes
13%
 13%  [ 5 ]
Those who have been convicted of major crimes (e.g. driving alcoholized, ...) have less votes for a longer amount of time
13%
 13%  [ 5 ]
Those who have been convicted of minor crimes (e.g. driving alcoholized, ...) have less votes for a short amount of time
11%
 11%  [ 4 ]
Parents have as many votes as they have underage children = Parents with 3 children have each 1 vote for themselves and 1.5 additional votes for their kids
8%
 8%  [ 3 ]
Those who are older have more votes
8%
 8%  [ 3 ]
Those who pay higher personal taxes have more votes
5%
 5%  [ 2 ]
No, everything stays like now: 1 person = 1 vote
5%
 5%  [ 2 ]
Those who didn't go voting at the last elections have less votes
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
Those who are older have less votes
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
The right to vote can be sold
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Number of users, who voted: 13
Number of counted votes: 36




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posted by knn
  

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The problem is that an IQ test doesn't really measure intelligence at all.
It's hard to define what intelligence really is.
To some extent, an IQ test only tells how well someone is integrated into society.
An obvious example is that immigrants will probably do worse in verbal IQ tests because
they don't know the language so well.
Minorities are more likely to score lower on an usual IQ test although they're not necessarily dumber than anyone else.
Why give those people get less votes?

posted by anonymyus
  

Re: IQ



anonymyus:
The problem is that an IQ test doesn't really measure intelligence at all...
Why give those people get less votes?

What I meant is a kind of "political ability test", something with questions like
"Who is the current president?"
If you can't answer that you shouldn't be eligible for voting.
anonymyus:
Minorities are more likely to score lower on an usual IQ test

Minorities like Nobel Prize winners?


posted by knn

Re: IQ



anonymyus:
Why give those people get less votes?

Why give anyone less (or more) votes?

The problem is not how many votes a person has, but rather how much affect a vote has.


posted by Marl64
  

woh now



Wow. How could anyone be for a political test, scientific award, or IQ test? Those are ridiculous, and quite scary ideas.

The only one I could even think of allowing is more votes for older people. But, instead, I say raise the voting age to 21.

posted by stinkz
  

60+ or what?



stinkz:
The only one I could even think of allowing is more votes for older people.

Older like what? 60+? Why should a 60+ year old get more votes?


posted by knn
  

no no no...



I just want to stop the propagandized youth (those adolescent liberal atheists, with no life experience) from voting.

posted by stinkz
  

Alzheimer patients get more votes



stinkz:
I just want to stop the propagandized youth (those adolescent liberal atheists, with no life experience) from voting.

So you want to promote conservative Alzheimer voters who have no clue about computers and current life?


posted by knn
  

wait a second...



knn:
So you want to promote conservative Alzheimer voters who have no clue about computers

So now everyone over the age of 21 has Alzheimers and no knowledge of computers?
knn:
and current life?

If by "current life" you mean the promiscous and fad-driven lifestyle of the youth, then who cares?


From what I have seen, very few people under the age of 21 have their own opinion on anything. But, what's worse, they staunchly believe they do. At least people over 21, if uneducated politically, will usually admit it.


posted by stinkz
  If popular thought feels 'science' to be different from all other kinds of knowledge because science is experimentally verifiable, it is mistaken.

Youngsters don't vote



stinkz:
So now everyone over the age of 21 has Alzheimers and no knowledge of computers?

Aaah, older = 21+. But youngsters ususally don't vote anyway.


posted by knn
  

unless...



Unless P.Diddy and other celebrities try to make them. And unless people like Michael Moore make them think they have educated opinions.

posted by stinkz
  



Where is the, "None of these" option?

posted by Tiefling
  



Tiefling:
Where is the, "None of these" option?

Added


posted by knn
  



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Parents have as many votes as they have underage children = Parents with 3 children have each 1 vote for themselves and 1.5 additional votes for their kids

So the socially dependent, single babyfactories get to elect people sympathetic to their plight, who in turn increase the welfare for kids of single parents thus increasing the incentive for more people to get on the "More Babies = More Bread" gravytrain.
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Those who pay higher personal taxes have more votes

So the people in senior positions get to elect people who support the high earners and once again the people on the factory floor get shafted.
Until of course these newly elected "fat cat lovers" lower taxes for their buddies and lose power because they didn't figure on the lost votes that go with it White laugh
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Those who have a higher IQ have more votes

And those that set the IQ test automatically get the power.
Besides I've known people with IQs through the roof, who had trouble walking and chewing gum at the same time.
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Those who are older have more votes

So the oldest people have the most votes - the oldes people being those who are gonna' die soon and don't care if they screw up the future - they won't be here.
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Those who are older have less votes

So the people in the best position to have learned from mistakes of the past have less effect on preventing them from being repeated.
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Those who have a degree / scientific award have more votes

So a person with degrees in chemical engineering and nuclear physics gets to elect more defence contract feeding war-mongers who in return will need to hire more...
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Those who didn't go voting at the last elections have less votes

I didn't vote at the last election, not through apathy, but through a lack of discernable differences between the parties. My lesser voting power under this system reduces the chances of that ever changing. It also encourages reflex-votes by people who don't wat to lose the voice they just wasted on a random candidate.
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Those who pass special knowledge tests (e.g. about the current political situation) have more votes

Thus the elections will be controlled by the people with the most information - the media.

No change there then. White laugh
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Those who have been convicted of minor crimes (e.g. driving alcoholized, ...) have less votes for a short amount of time
Those who have been convicted of major crimes (e.g. driving alcoholized, ...) have less votes for a longer amount of time

Or in simple terms, people in jail can't vote.
NO, this idea would be Ok, apart from the ability of a government in power to bring in laws which targetted supporters of their opposition - like the US did with the drugs ... erm, sorry "Drug Licence" related tax laws - over the last century.
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The right to vote can be sold

Is this each election or do you sell off "all future rights to vote"
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No, everything stays like now: 1 person = 1 vote

Except of course for block and union votes and the fact that to vote you have to reside - hence homeless people don't get a voice - at least over here.

But apart from that some good ideas.

On the subject of daft ideas..
• People who "got it wrong" at the last election miss a turn next time
• After a political term, the government performance is assessed against a baseline, if they are above it all the people who voted for them get an extra vote next time, if they are below, all the people who voted for them lose a vote next time.


Oh wait, votes are secret, hmm. Yeah Right!

White laugh

Let's face it the whole problem with election systems is the belief that democracy exists.


posted by Marl64
  





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