»Is the influence of Christianity decreasing?«
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 Register first to vote here posted by knn |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsIs the influence of Christianity decreasing? |
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 But simpletons like George W. Bush still listen to them to make important non-related decisions. For example his decision to stop funding stem cell research. posted by Echelon |
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 Um... what the hell? Increasing in what? Child molestation? Atheist preists? FIlmmaking abilty? Tolerance for minorities? You have to be a bit more specific! posted by fatpie42 |
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The title of the poll says: "Is the influence of Christianity decreasing?" 
posted by Echelon |
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 It doesn't rule the world and decide the fates of countries any more. Though it tries. It feels more like a good old safe habit - believing in God and Co, asking Him for mercy... Everyone for centuries did that, why should we be different, right? People seem to want to hear something different. posted by mymla |
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Echelon: The title of the poll says: "Is the influence of Christianity decreasing?"
No it says "is the influence Christianity decreasing" but yeah, I didn't see that. posted by fatpie42 |
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 Quote: No it says "is the influence Christianity decreasing" but yeah, I didn't see that Oops, corrected posted by knn |
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 are you grouping Catholicism together with Protestant Christianity? Because I would definitely say that ALL religions, including Christianity (I must admit), have been declining ever since their "golden age". Roman catholicism started declining after it was taking control of everything people did in their lives and people started thinking that the pope and the clergy were too powerful. Christianity started declining after it's Golden Age when all of those different types of Christianity was formed, and after Charles Darwin proposed the theory of evolution. Muslim started declining...well, after 9/11. 
You get my point? posted by nocturnal_anonymous |
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Quote: are you grouping Catholicism together with Protestant Christianity? Of course. Quote: Muslim started declining...well, after 9/11. Islam is declining? Why? My stats show the opposite. Even headscarfs are becoming fashion now. Islam is growing about 2.9% per year which is faster than the total world population which increases at about 2.3% annually. It is thus attracting a progressively larger percentage of the world's population.
The number of Muslims in North America is in dispute: estimates range from under 3 million to over 6 million. The main cause of the disagreement appears to be over how many Muslim immigrants have converted to Christianity since they arrived in the US. Statistics Canada reports that 253,260 Canadians identified themselves as Muslims (0.9% of the total population) during the 1991 census. Some estimated that there were as many as 500,000 Muslims in Canada. Today (.2001) there are an estimated 650,000 Muslims in Canada. posted by knn |
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Well...that's the amount of people who consider themselves to be Muslim (and of course that would be increasing at least by a little, after all, babies are always being born into Muslim families), not the influence that Islam has in the world. The most dramatic change noted by the report was a more than 1,600 percent increase in reported hate crimes against Muslims -- a jump from 28 hate incidents in 2000 to 481 last year. I just thought that people would be afraid of showing their Muslim beliefs in public after 9/11. posted by nocturnal_anonymous |
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 If the current rate of decline is not arrested, the Methodist Church will have zero membership by 2037
If it continues to shrink at the present rate, the Church of Scotland will close its last congregation in 2033 Unless something happens to reverse the decline it is experiencing, the Church in Wales will be unsustainable by 2020 The Salvation Army and United Reformed Church face similar prospects. A highly interesting read... 2 jokes (from the post-Christendom era) that make one think: In a London school a teenager with no church connections hears the Christmas story for the first time. His teacher tells it well and he is fascinated by this amazing story. Risking his friends’ mockery, after the lesson he thanks her for the story. One thing had disturbed him, so he asks: ‘Why did they give the baby a swear-word for his name?’   One Sunday in Oxford a man visits a church building to collect something for his partner who works during the week in a creative-arts project the church runs. He arrives as the morning congregation is leaving and recognises the minister, whom he knows. Surprised, he asks: ‘What are all these people doing here? I didn’t know churches were open on Sundays!’
posted by knn |
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 Interesting stats about the growth of Jehovah's witnesses. I take these statistics as an example for all Christian sects.  It shows what we knew all along: Christianity is basically the religion of the poor. As soon as people get happy, peaceful and rich they have no reason anymore to believe in the bible. Jehova's witnesses have a growth in the third and second world and a negative growth in the first world. An exception (as always in religion matters) is the US. Please also note that the "number of newly baptised people" is decreasing in nearly every country of the world except for Zambia and a few others (Scroll down to "Growth Pattern of Each Country from 1987 through 2003") to see all countries. And that doesn't even calculate the leaving members. So I guess the growth (of this pretty aggressive Christian group) is pretty much close to 0 (= on the average 1000 new baptisms per country per year) Interesting is the comparison of publishers (= house-to-house-goers) and population growth to new baptised members: Christianity is succumbing in front of our eyes. It's also interesting that in the face of global challenges and terrorism the old message "The end is near! Jesus is coming" doesn't work anymore. After a few thousand years of old testament, people seem to get tired. posted by knn |
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 knn: Christianity is succumbing in front of our eyes. So, xian numbers may be decreasing by why is xian influence strong if not stronger than even in the US? Bush won because of the xian base voting in larger numbers than ever before. The increased youth vote to oust Bush couldn't combat those numbers. More and more high schools continue to gloss over evolution or skip it all together thanks to xians. Many top officials that run this country have some of the most antiquated religious beliefs. Ashcroft was something out of the 1800s. knn: Christianity is basically the religion of the poor. As soon as people get happy, peaceful and rich they have no reason anymore to believe in the bible. Of course xians have always worked to maintain an iron grip of control on the lower class. But don't you believe that the political rich at least maintain xian airs? And some don't follow it just to keep up appearances, they really believe it. The former prime minister of Canada has said many times on Real Time w/ Bill Maher that there is no way a prime minister of Canada could be elected who still thinks the book is still out on evolution. And yet, half of America loves a president who is dumb as shit and probably can't even spell science much less grasp its easiest concepts. posted by volonteshiva |
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volonteshiva: So, xian numbers may be decreasing by why is xian influence strong if not stronger than even in the US? As I wrote: The US is an exception. See it as the last rearing of this world religion before it vanishes in a silent *blop*. volonteshiva: The former prime minister of Canada has said many times on Real Time w/ Bill Maher that there is no way a prime minister of Canada could be elected who still thinks the book is still out on evolution. And yet, half of America loves a president who is dumb as shit and probably can't even spell science much less grasp its easiest concepts. Offtopic posted by knn |
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knn: volonteshiva: The former prime minister of Canada has said many times on Real Time w/ Bill Maher that there is no way a prime minister of Canada could be elected who still thinks the book is still out on evolution. And yet, half of America loves a president who is dumb as shit and probably can't even spell science much less grasp its easiest concepts. Offtopic Well, I meant to tie this statement into the influence of xianity to elect Bush. Even though Bush is this dumb, xian influence pushes him into the higher power position. Doesn't sound like their influence is buckling. posted by volonteshiva |
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