»The reasons why we don't remember our past lives«
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 The ONEder Man: [why don't we remember our past lives? In socratic philosophy, Socrates believed that we once lived in the realm of the pure forms but we lose our memory of it once we are born due to the pain of childbirth. Strangely enough 'the pain of childbirth' is the same reason given by Hindus for forgetting previous lives. It must be said - how could anything be more traumatic than death to make you forget your previous life? posted by fatpie42 |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsThe reasons why we don't remember our past lives |
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Death probably is not as traumatic as we tend to think. We know living, at least we think we know, but death is largely feared because it is unknown. Saints, contrary to our expectations, have portrayed it as an elevating experience. A Sanskrit word for saint is ‘santa’ = ‘sa’ (with/aware of) + ‘anta’ (end/death). Saint is someone who has the knowledge of nature of death. It is strange, but those “near death experience” accounts are also portrayed as joyful. On the other hand, they say ‘coming out womb’ is traumatic. Buddha used to conduct meditations where he would give a glimpse of the pain one goes thru during birth and that one experience would transform the entire value system of his followers posted by blueSky |
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 Quote: they say ‘coming out womb’ is traumatic Yeah, but come on, how traumatic can it be? Even after sever accidents you don't forget the last 20 years. posted by knn |
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Don't know. have to find a saint or buddha within (or without?) to get the glimpse. posted by blueSky |
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 Is because we don't have any.  posted by Echelon |
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Buddha used to say that the the process of birth is very traumatic and introduces an amnesia. There are some reports some people getting the access to that aspect. But I have no idea and spiritually it is not that importatnt. What is importatnt is 'now' and its influence the trajectory of the next moment. Hence all the spiritual practices focus on getting in the present moment. Mediatation is mostly that. posted by blueSky |
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 blueSky: Buddha used to say that the the process of birth is very traumatic and introduces an amnesia. I doubt that this alone would be enough to make you lose all memories. There are far greater shocks than being born (e.g. car accidents) and you don't lose your memory. blueSky: There are some reports some people getting the access to that aspect. But I have no idea and spiritually it is not that importatnt. Spirituality is not important? posted by knn |
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Quote: There are far greater shocks Can't quantify such a thing. But people do suffer from loss of memory due to shocks. And I think everything is not lost. Some parts may explain out subtle instincts. Knowing past life is not that important... Nothing is more importatnt than present moment. posted by blueSky |
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 fatpie42: but we lose our memory of it once we are born due to the pain of childbirth we may lose our memory from past lives but you also have to remember that our first memories altogether begin around 2-3 years of age, so you forget more than just past lives, you forget how to remember! or you could sum it up to not having the mental capacity for memories until then posted by The ONEder Man |
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blueSky: But people do suffer from loss of memory due to shocks. Not really. Only in seldom cases. But past life memory loss is a regular thing. blueSky: Knowing past life is not that important... Nothing is more importatnt than present moment. Offtopic: IMO → If past lives exist, then remembering them is important posted by knn |
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Quote: blueSky:But people do suffer from loss of memory due to shocks.
Not really. Only in seldom cases. But past life memory loss is a regular thing. Imagine being an embriyo. Doesn't have to do anything. Food is fed. Doesn't even have to breath on own. And then you are pushed out. All at once one has to face a drastic environment change. I can accept the shock of it. I cannot quantify it compared to some accident. And it might be a mechanism to cope with this life. Imagine if you never forget anything.. even in this life it would be tough to deal with that. posted by blueSky |
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blueSky: Imagine being an embriyo. That assumes that you enter your new body as... what? A sperm or an egg cell? Maybe you enter it AFTER birth? I still don't see why a shock itself could cause memory loss on such a regular basis. Look, people are tortured, have accidents and skydive from planes. Nothing of it causes memory loss. And everything can be seen as far worse than merely being born. blueSky: Imagine if you never forget anything.. even in this life it would be tough to deal with that. That an unprovable assumption. You don't forget anything... so? posted by knn |
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Quote: That an unprovable assumption. Agree. Only a matter of inquiry. posted by blueSky |
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knn: Look, people are tortured, have accidents and skydive from planes. Nothing of it causes memory loss. And everything can be seen as far worse than merely being born. not true, you've never heard of rape victims suppressing memories of the tramatic event? or suppressed memories of anything for that matter? posted by The ONEder Man |
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The ONEder Man: not true, you've never heard of rape victims suppressing memories of the tramatic event? Yes, but that's not forgetting (millions) of past lives. Moreover this doesn't happen on a regular basis. Look, I could forget what I ate for breakfast after I fall from the chair. But this is nothing compared to forgetting a whole life as a bank director a few months before your new birth: All language, math, relationship... forgotten. That shouldn't be compared with some suppressed memories of crime victims. posted by knn |
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