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...Almost everything we have come to know throughout the years about our origins and history through scientific investigation collides with what the Bible says.

Take for example that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of a massive flood that flooded the whole world with water for 40 days. There is also hard evidence (way more fundamented and believable) that we in fact have common descendants with apes. Far more than creationists want us to believe.

As for more recent history, take for example the infamous children killing attributed to Herodes around 2000 years ago. The Bible says that Herodes heard that a messiah, a man that would bring freedom to the Jewish people was born, so he got scared and ordered his soldiers to execute every male baby that was born in the last few days. Truth is, that such a cruel and infamous event would have been recorded by at least one of the historians living at the time and yet, such a document has never been found.

To wrap it up, let's all remember the famous Moses story. He was the one that freed the Hebrews from Egypt after years and years of slavery. The Bible says that he (through God's power) unleashed 7 deadly plagues on them to convince pharaoh Ramses to let his people go. Again, this is a massive, unprecedented event in human history and yet, not one single record from this has been found on a document, painting, manuscript, or artifact.

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...Almost everything we have come to know throughout the years about our origins and history through scientific investigation collides with what the Bible says.

Don't see that. Only a few things maybe.
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Take for example that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of a massive flood that flooded the whole world with water for 40 days

Legends of a big flood exist in many cultures around the world.
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The Bible says that he (through God's power) unleashed 7 deadly plagues on them to convince pharaoh Ramses to let his people go. Again, this is a massive, unprecedented event in human history and yet, not one single record from this has been found on a document, painting, manuscript, or artifact.

Well, we actually don't know much about pharao history. Egypt is still a big myth.

Moreover, not finding documents doesn't mean something didn't happen.


posted by knn

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knn:
Legends of a big flood exist in many cultures around the world.

The fact that there are legends doesn't mean that they happened. Key word there: LEGENDS. Besides, if many cultures have the same legend it could be an adaptation of the first one or a cultural theft.
knn:
Well, we actually don't know much about pharao history. Egypt is still a big myth.

Yes we do. Egyptians are the most studied ancient culture ever. The fact that some things are still a myth has nothing to do with omitting a "history changing event" such as the 7 plagues of Egypt from their written records. It doesn't make sense. It would be like in 500 years from now not finding any information about the World Wars, Hiroshima, or the 9/11 attacks.
knn:
Moreover, not finding documents doesn't mean something didn't happen.

Of course, but it makes you actually question it's veracity. Wink


posted by Echelon
  

Firstborn dead



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The fact that there are legends doesn't mean that they happened. Key word there: LEGENDS.

Yes, but now you demand more than is possible: That CNN some footage about the flood. If there are worldwide legends then this is the closest to a proof you can get (unless someone finds age-old movies onboard the spaceships of the aliens who caused the flood)
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Yes we do. Egyptians are the most studied ancient culture ever.

Don't make me laugh. Historians don't even know for sure who built the pyramids. But that's another topic.
I recently saw a BBC documentary about the seven biblical plagues and everything was explained wonderfully. It was basically a rare insect plague with all the features one after one that are mentioned in the bible.


posted by knn
  



knn:
Yes, but now you demand more than is possible: That CNN some footage about the flood.

Now you sounded like a Christian defending his beliefs.
knn:
Don't make me laugh. Historians don't even know for sure who built the pyramids. But that's another topic.

True, but they do know about their gods, rituals, habits, daily life, etc, etc, etc. Just cause they can't figure out how the hell those amazing structures were built it doesn't mean they don0t know anything (which is what you're stating).
knn:
I recently saw a BBC documentary about the seven biblical plagues and everything was explained wonderfully. It was basically a rare insect plague with all the features one after one that are mentioned in the bible.

Link?


posted by Echelon
  

10 plagues of egypt, by John S Marr and Curtis Malloy



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Link?

Marr malloy egypt 


posted by knn
  

i can't believe no one read this



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Take for example that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of a massive flood that flooded the whole world with water for 40 days.

evidence of a flood of the whole world? no... evidence of a flood of the "known" world at that time? sho' nuff...


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But a Manitoba geologist thinks he and an international team have found scientific proof that a nearby area was flooded, at the end of the last ice age, as the story of Noah and other ancient tales have suggested.

"This isn't 40 days and 40 nights of rain as the scriptures would describe Noah's flood but it certainly is one that would have impacted on people and their settlements,"
says Jim Teller of the University of Manitoba.


Two American scientists, William Ryan and Walter Pitman, have already suggested the flooding of the Black Sea after the last ice age may have been the source of the flood stories that appear in early recorded history.

"There does seem to be some pretty widespread evidence for some huge inundation in that general area,"
says Prof. Al Wolters, who teaches religion, theology and classical languages at Redeemer College in Ancaster, Ont.

It has been speculated the flood of Noah -- said to have built an ark to save his family and every species on Earth -- was also just a flood of the Euphrates or Tigris, two rivers at the crossroads of recorded history.

But Teller suggests it was a product of the great melt at the end of the last ice age, a few thousand years earlier, and the story was remembered.

For 100,000 years or more, kilometres-thick sheets of ice had covered much of the globe. So much water was withdrawn from the oceans they were about 120 metres lower than today.

The melt started about 20,000 years ago and took thousands of years to finish, with another mini ice age along the way. It's during this process Teller says the Persian Gulf was reflooded.


The theory had its genesis around an Arabian desert campfire in the fall of 1998, where he and the other geologists were resting under a starry sky after a day probing the origins of sand dunes.

Some of the dunes were found to contain the remnants of tiny shelled marine organisms such as foraminifera and clams, apparently blown from the floor of the Gulf after it became dry during the last ice age.

One thousand years is a lot longer than 40 days and 40 nights but at times Teller says the water moved quite quickly over the flat plain, sometimes at a rate of more than a kilometre a year.

At that speed, he suggests the returning water would have driven the inhabitants of the area from settlements and likely have been viewed at the time as a catastrophic event, the kind to be recorded for posterity.

"Stories must have been told and passed down through time."



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