»Creationism vs Evolution«
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 Quote: its a matter of the evidence that refutes that biblical timeline OK what do you disagree with? posted by knn |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsCreationism vs Evolution |
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 knn: Where did science PROVE that? "Evolution" is just a thesis. And we cannot be tracked except for hypothetical tracks. I think they are very well fundamented, the only thing it that most people don't like to or don't want to accept it. Either for their religious beliefs or for their self pride not letting them accept that we are in fact descended from apes in some way. posted by Echelon |
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Quote: I think they are very well fundamented That's a common misconception. It's not well fundamented. It's simply the most widely accepted non-divine (= pure scientific) theory there is: Evolution through accidental changes of the DNA. posted by knn |
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 Quote: Evolution through accidental changes of the DNA. ...and evolution through enviromental pressures... Quote: OK what do you disagree with? ..that the bible says the earth is 7000 years old...when there is INFACT...been humans on the earth...as a species...for well over that time...at last definite...40,000 years...and as early as 120,000 years ago that the FACT that there was life 250,000,000 million years ago that the earth has been dated as being over 4,000,000,000 years old posted by the anomaly |
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Quote: ...and evolution through enviromental pressures... Not really. Environment just helps to kill animals with unfavourable DNA changes. Quote: ..that the bible says the earth is 7000 years old...when there is INFACT...been humans on the earth...as a species...for well over that time...at last definite...40,000 years...and as early as 120,000 years ago The bible doesn't state that anywhere. posted by knn |
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is the kind of mad people you are arguing for...amazing that for every utter nonsense the man speaks...he uses the god card to explain its utter inconcievability and its total disregard for the way the world works...and we are all supposed to accept it as truth  posted by the anomaly |
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knn: The bible doesn't state that anywhere. If you add up all the generations of men staring from Adam and ending in Jesus they all add up to nearly 4000 years. And we know that from there to our days it's 2000 years. You do the math. posted by Echelon |
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Quote: is the kind of mad people you are arguing for. Many US presidents believe in God's creation. And the impropability of DNA evolution is a valid counter-argument. It's like Creationist: This car has been constructed by an intelligent constructor. Scientist: There is no proof, noone has seen this creator. This car was designed by chance. This is exactly the state that science is in right now. You have astonishingly functioning bodies and yet only accidental DNA is admitted as the only forming source. posted by knn |
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Quote: If you add up all the generations of men staring from Adam and ending in Jesus they all add up to nearly 4000 years. And we know that from there to our days it's 2000 years. You do the math. 4000 years since Adam? What does it say about the age of the earth? Moreoever even this 4000 years is pure speculation, if you consider that Adam might have lived 20 million years in paradise. posted by knn |
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knn: Moreoever even this 4000 years is pure speculation, if you consider that Adam might have lived 20 million years in paradise. Do you know a person that lived 20 million years? In the Bible the ages at which every descendant died are stated. They supposedly lived around 200 and 300 years, which I believe is still nonsense, but that's another topic. Why don't you lighten up a bit? You're beginning to defend things that simply cannot be defended and you're using the same lame arguments creationists use in their unfundamented theories. Instead of arguing with us, why don't you tell us what you really think about this subject for a change? posted by Echelon |
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Quote: You're beginning to defend things that simply cannot be defended and you're using the same lame arguments creationists use in their unfundamented theories. Instead of arguing with us, why don't you tell us what you really think about this subject for a change? If you don't believe in god it can hardly be defended. But if I had to chose between "accidental DNA changes made humans from bacteria" or "God guided the development" I chose the latter. Fortunately I don't have to chose. You have still not said with what figures you disagree regarding the age of earth. The bible makes no statement regarding this. It's OK that you don't believe the age of some biblical figures, but that's as you said another thread. posted by knn |
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lets see what the religious people think  Quote: accidental DNA changes made humans from bacteria" no one said from bateria...but all life evolved from simple single celled life forms...through multi cellular liffe forms...through complex life forms there is DNA back up for this hypothesis where as for god...there is incoherent,chronologically incorrect babble with no physical evidence whatsoever to validate the claims lets look at it from a legal perspective the evolutionists show mountains upon mountains of evidence of (did i mention these already)skull and bone fossils,carbon dating,DNA validation of genetic traces between species, and the creationists say "because the bible says so"... the bible says one thing...hundreds of thousands of scientific texts and papers and research notes say another thing posted by the anomaly |
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Quote: no one said from bateria...but all life evolved from simple single celled life forms Yeah, that's the same. Simplified by me, but still the same. Radioactivity made "Bacteria to Birds". I could say "Algea to Apes", same thing. Quote: where as for god...there is incoherent,chronologically incorrect babble with no physical evidence whatsoever to validate the claims You cannot proof that something doesn't exist, can you? Quote: the evolutionists show mountains upon mountains of evidence of (did i mention these already)skull and bone fossils,carbon dating,DNA validation of genetic traces between species, Please stop to call it evidence. It's NOT evidence. It supports the "evolution theory". That's all. As you know courts want to hear indications AND counter-indications. But you argue like someone who has made science his religion: Not accepting any counter-hint (the improbability). You just repeat the explanations however unlikely they are. You cite scientist that are busy to imagine a godless universe wihtout any higher influences. Quote: the bible says one thing...hundreds of thousands of scientific texts and papers and research notes say another thing I actually don't see that you have provided any example that shows any contradiction between bible and science. If it would be that simple, no scientist would believe in the bible. The opposite is true: Many scientists believe in the bible. Show me one concrete contradiction. posted by knn |
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Quote: You cannot proof that something doesn't exist, can you? ask sherlock holmes...or better yet...ask saddam hussein seriously though...you can prove something does exist...so i am merely asking to prove god exists... as there is proof that evolution exists...as cited above Quote: Show me one concrete contradiction. the bible says man was created 5 days after the earth man has been on the earth for upto a maximum of 120,000...the earth has been dated at over 4,000,000,000 that's a very long 5 days you critisice me for showing "support" for the evolutionary manfestation of life yet you show none whatsoever for the creationism manifestation of life evidence vs no evidence support vs no support the argument of "god exists because i believe god exists" is not valid in anyway... and neither is "evolution is improbable"...show me how and why it is improbable show me the support or evidence to the contrary you cant because there is none posted by the anomaly |
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Quote: the bible says man was created 5 days after the earth The word "Day" just mean "Some amount of time". It is not to be taken as "24 hours". It's an invalid argument just as your "Adam had 2 sons" statement. Quote: as there is proof that evolution exists...as cited above Congratulations. You have proved that evolution exists. The proof scientists wait for. For so long.  Quote: and neither is "evolution is improbable"...show me how and why it is improbable Just search for Critics evolution ♣ or Scientists against evolution ♣ Evolution by random DNA mutations is simply... unlikely. Quote: and neither is "evolution is improbable"...show me how and why it is improbable Actually it is so unlikely that many scientists until this very day claim that life exists on earth alone. posted by knn |
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