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Scheme is taught so that we can understand the basics of programming. I've never ever done any type of programming before, and if Scheme is considered "Easy", I don't know how I would survive a Computer Science 1A class that taught another type of computer language that is, according to knn, "useful". And mind you, I'm planning on taking AP Computer Science next year, so I better get an A in this current class. Set your George Michael free

posted by nocturnal_anonymous
  "NO CAPES!"

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Wasn't this one of the reasons they invented

Beginners All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code?

(or is it no longer fasionable or cool Shocked)

Uncle Ben


posted by Marl64
  

Let me give you an example of how easy php is


Quote:
and if Scheme is considered "Easy", I don't know how I would survive a Computer Science 1A class that taught another type of computer language that is

Every program language is EASY. The power of advanced languages is that ADDITIONALLY to the easy stuff they have also advanced stuff.

If Scheme is easy then this is maybe just another word for unusable.

Let me show you php (a highly popular language):

$testnumber = 5;
$anothertestnumber = 19;
if ($testnumber+$anothertestnumber > 12)
    {
    echo "Result is bigger than 12";  // This will be printed in this example here
    }
else
    {
    echo "Result is smaller than 13";
    }


There is NOTHING hard about that. Just the terms are a bit different (instead of "define" you use "function").

It's totally easy, but guess what... this forum here is written in PHP.

THAT's the language that should be taught.


posted by knn
  

VB is highly andvanced


Quote:
or is it no longer fasionable or cool

Visual Basic can be very good. The only thing it has in common with the TLFKAB (the language formerly known as Basic) is the name.

VB is a highly advanced language.


posted by knn
  

Perly gates


Was php based on Perl then?

The structure could be any of the C/Java type languages but the variable syntax looks like Perl

posted by Marl64
  

i'm a moron don't make fun


so where does C++ fit in your good vs bad languages? or is it already one mentioned? Set your George Michael free

posted by The ONEder Man
  

ABC of programming


C languages are OK. I don't like them but if nocturnal_anonymous would tell me "Our teacher is teaching C" then I would say "Very well" Thumb Up

But this Scheme nonsense (there are other languages equally bad. Just developed for schools. No use in the wild. Just in vitro. And they claim you learn for life)

posted by knn
  

PHP rules


Quote:
Was php based on Perl then?

Perl is kinda ok but PHP rules. Actually asp.net rules, but it needs Windows servers, and this costs $. PHP runs on Linux thus if you order webspace with PHP abilities you don't need to buy a Windows licence.


posted by knn
  

As Neo would say


knn:
Quote:
Was php based on Perl then?

Perl is kinda ok but PHP rules. Actually asp.net rules, but it needs Windows servers, and this costs $. PHP runs on Linux thus if you order webspace with PHP abilities you don't need to buy a Windows licence.

You didn't answer my question White laugh

Anyway, YES is was
Quote:
History of PHP

PHP succeeds an older product, named PHP/FI. PHP/FI was created by Rasmus Lerdorf in 1995, initially as a simple set of Perl scripts for tracking accesses to his online resume. He named this set of scripts 'Personal Home Page Tools'.




posted by Marl64
  

Just for school, just for BEGINNERS.


Quote:
But this Scheme nonsense (there are other languages equally bad. Just developed for schools. No use in the wild. Just in vitro. And they claim you learn for life)

Yes, I guess you could say that they are teaching Dr. Scheme just for school, but that is because we are trying to grasp the CONCEPT of programming. Like I've said before, we're going to learn Java next semester, and if I take AP Computer Science next year, then I'm sure he'll teach us some more "useful" languages. After all, it is an AP class.


posted by nocturnal_anonymous
  

What's wrong with school systems


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but that is because we are trying to grasp the CONCEPT of programming.

Nope. That is what your teacher SAYS. I have heard this argument for years and I consider it as plain wrong. No Bill Gates has ever learned Scheme to start his imperium.

It's like learning letters before one can talk, just to get the CONCEPT of language.

It's just a wrong attitude and pretty much exactly what's wrong with school systems: Not learning for later application.


posted by knn
  



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