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Today a report was published by the 9/11 commission .

*Al-Qaeda planned attacks with 10 air planes. Bin Laden wanted the smaller version with 4 planes. Sheik Mohammed (the head behind the attacks) wanted also to hit the FBI and CIA.
• Saddam Hussein refused to work with Bin Laden, although Bin Laden tried to establish terrorist camps in Iraq.
• The US defense system reacted catastrophically



posted by knn

in-my-opinion.org -> Politics -> Bush, Kerry, Iraq -> 9/11 commission: Iraq refused to work with Al-Qaeda



i had this first knn

IMO → Full 9/11 plot revealed

posted by Agent Zero
  

Not really



The most important part is that Iraq has no terrorist connections. Which is yet another hint that Bush's Iraq war was
a) for other reasons
b) weakens the fight against terrorism



posted by knn
  

Re: Not really



knn:
The most important part is that Iraq has no terrorist connections.

Um... that probably isn't entirely true. I think Saddam funded what he might call the Palestinian 'freedom fighters'. The point however, as you said elsewhere was that he didn't support Al Quiaeda. However, we all already knew that!

(Quite frankly, many of the people working for Saddam were Christian. Saddam was not a strongly religious man and kept a fairly secular state. He would have little reason to fund Islamic extremists. Islamic extremists were the very people he slaughtered when he attacked Iran.)

The clever thing Bush did, was to claim that his attack on Iraq was part of the war on terrorism, but not to actually say how. There was a lot of focus on WMDs but he never said that Iraq would sell them to Al Quiaeda or that they had ever worked with Al Quiaeda in the past. The propaganda IMPLIED it and plenty of people (stupidly) took the bait.

I'm afraid that simply stating the obvious as you are here, does not affect Bush one bit. He never said that Al Quiaeda and Iraq were linked (correct me if I'm wrong) so the fact that the aren't has no affect on his integrity.


posted by fatpie42
  "The beauty of the Superman came to me as a shadow. What are the gods to me now!"

Tariq Aziz



Quote:
many of the people working for Saddam were Christian

For example Saddam's Deputy Prime Minister, who had many appearances in TV, was Christian and visted the pope during the beginning of the war.

Heck, Saddam was supported by the US administration to fight against the islamic threat (Iran). So it's kind of a joke in itself that to fight islamistic terrorists Bush removes Saddam.


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posted by knn
  

we forget...



we forget that the u.s. put the bath party in power in the first place...

posted by The ONEder Man
  



the thing you need to tlook at is its all speculation...they think he was not in touch with him, they still have no hard evidence that saddam didn't.

posted by Agent Zero
  

Guilty until proven innocent eh?



No one has any hard evidence that Bush doesn't conjure up demons to do his bidding.

Just because you don't have hard evidence against something doesn't mean there is any reason to believe it. There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Saddam ever DID have dealings with Al Quiaeda and it does not seem likely that such evidence will ever surface.

posted by fatpie42
  

i heard



well according to liberal slayer(the new angry guy) saddam and alquida were in touch just not about 9/11. so there is some mixed news coming out right now.

posted by Agent Zero
  

United Statements of America



Quote:
well according to liberal slayer

ACCORDING to whom? Agent Zero, start believing facts (e.g. from cnn.com) instead referring to other users' opinions, including mine. You shouldn't give a damn if knn repeatadly states that George W. Bush is the greatest president of the United States of Arabia.


posted by knn
  

united states of what?



last i check that's not a real country...and i don't and wont trust cnn.com...msn.com has some news stuff on it

posted by Agent Zero
  

Countries and derivates



Quote:
united states of what?

AKA United Arab Emirates.


posted by knn
  

From the ABC



Source -

Reporter: John Shovelan
TONY EASTLEY: US President George W. Bush isn't backing down on his claim of ties between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein despite an independent commission report that has found no "collaborative relationship."

Citing "numerous contacts" between al-Qaeda figures and Iraqi officials, President Bush said there was adequate proof.

From Washington, John Shovelan reports.

JOHN SHOVELAN: Despite the 9/11 Commission, the CIA and the FBI being in agreement on the conclusion that there was no "collaborative relationship", President Bush insists there was.

GEORGE BUSH: Oh the reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al-Qaeda because there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda. This administration never said that the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated between Saddam and al-Qaeda. We did say there were numerous contacts between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.

JOHN SHOVELAN: The alleged terrorist ties was one of the main pillars of the administration's argument for invading Iraq.

Before the war President Bush described al-Qaeda as a possible "forward army" for Saddam Hussein.

President Bush says the contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda provided proof of a relationship.

GEORGE BUSH: There's numerous contacts between the two. I always said that Saddam Hussein was a threat. Now he was a threat because he had terrorist connections, not only al-Qaeda connections, but other connections to terrorist organisations.

JOHN SHOVELAN: But the report issued yesterday by the bipartisan commission investigating the 2001 terrorist attack on the United States, found that all evidence, including highly classified information it's seen, showed that despite these contacts, there was no tangible cooperation.

In yesterday's hearing, a senior FBI official and another senior CIA analyst agreed. Yet Vice President, Dick Cheney, bluntly asserted the opposite on Monday.

At the Pentagon the Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld didn’t point to any further evidence of a link uncovered in Iraq despite an invitation to.

REPORTER: Mr Secretary, has the picture of the connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda become clearer since the regime fell? And how so?

DONALD RUMSFELD: This is the question that everyone keeps asking…

REPORTER: It's unique.

DONALD RUMSFELD: Do you think it's a unique question? It sounds like a broken record to me…

JOHN SHOVELAN: The 9/11 commission findings of no collaborative relationship not only challenges the administration but the view of most Americans who according to an April poll believe almost two to one that Iraq was supporting al-Qaeda.

John Shovelan, Washington

posted by hungarian kid
  Weiter, weiter ins Verderben!
Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben!

President Bush sounds like some forum posters here



Quote:
GEORGE BUSH: there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al-Qaeda because there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda

This is the answer of the mightiest man in the world why he invaded another country? The reason for preemptive strikes? I hope India will not adopt such arguments to strike preemptively against the US.


posted by knn
  

you made me do it...



Iraqi Officer Tied to Al Qaeda - 9/11 Commissioner

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks has been told "a very prominent member" of al Qaeda served as an officer in Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s militia, a panel member said on Sunday.


Republican commissioner John Lehman told NBC's "Meet the Press" program that the new intelligence, if proven true, buttresses claims by the Bush administration of ties between Iraq (news - web sites) and the militant network believed responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on America.


"We are now in the process of getting this latest intelligence," Lehman said.


Commission Chairman Thomas Kean urged the administration to make any such information available to the panel quickly.

"Obviously, if there is any information (that) has to do with the subject of the report, we need it, and we need it pretty fast," Kean said on ABC's "This Week" program. "We'll ask for it and see."


He said the final report would be modified to take any new intelligence into account.


Lehman said the information, contained in "captured documents," was obtained after the commission report was written that stated there was no evidence of a "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda.


"Some of these documents indicate that (there was) at least one officer of Saddam's Fedayeen, a lieutenant colonel, who was a very prominent member of al Qaeda," Lehman said.


"That still has to be confirmed, but the vice president (Dick Cheney (news - web sites)) was right when he said that he may have things that we don't yet have," said Lehman, a former Navy secretary.


Cheney and President Bush (news - web sites) continued to insist that Iraq had ties to al Qaeda after the commission report issued last week found no evidence that Iraq collaborated with al Qaeda.

posted by The ONEder Man
  I know where you live. I will send a rape commando -- knn



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