»The 2by2.net - IXP.net scam«
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 sherm: spending 3/4 of my weekends at a stupid hotel cheering maniacally for random Asian dudes with names like Johnny Ly, Michael Mo and Dennis Wong, who claim to have SO much money and are talked about like rock stars but really just speak for 3 hours of total boring crap, and the representatives have the fakest enthusiasm possible. And also, chilling with "business partners" who claim to be "my new best friends in the world", even though if they didn't have my money they wouldn't give a shit about me. And all the time, believing I'd "actually make some money" the biggest lie of all. Sounds like a standard MLM recruitment seminar. Usually done in a rented hotel seminar room. The big cars with which the presenters come are usually from rent-a-car. sherm: The stats speak for themselves, over 70% of people who enter IXP do not make a penny! But that's the case anywhere. You have been fooled by your own greed. The problem is: MLM does work, but only for some. Thus if they take 450USD only to get you started then this is basically the only point that is kind of "dirty" (yet not illegal). posted by knn |
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| in-my-opinion.orgMiscBusiness & MoneyThe 2by2.net - IXP.net scam |
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 they didn't get me! Mr. Johnny Ly caught me at my job with an offer for a job... Having a kid coming, i took him up, but i did my research. I read all of the message boards (approx. 260) in which people all said the same thing. Oh yeah? I can make $3000 a week? And he's expanding to NJ, and I am the first person he talked to in the area, showing his rolex(fake), his platnum and diamond ring (looked fake). Almost convincing, but his schedule book was open, and there were maybe 15-20 other people my name.  first person? Worst part was that he knew today would have been my mother's birthday and he played it off as a "blessing in disguise" and "a chance to make her dreams come true" TACKY. Anyone in the NJ/CT/NY/MA/NH area...keep an eye out. After all, if you shell out $300, and everything works perfect, you have enough to maybe buy a pair of shoes. He made a Used-Car salesman look good  posted by IxpNot4Me |
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LMAO your all jelous got nothing else to do but to talk shit LMAO we'll see who is laughing their way to the bank! lmao don't even t got to say much cause if we really were a scam, don't you think we would already be in jail by now? lmao its been like 5 years since we been out! lmao posted by YOUR ALL JELOUS LMAO |
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 YOUR ALL JELOUS LMAO: LMAO your all jelous got nothing else to do but to talk shit LMAO we'll see who is laughing their way to the bank! lmao don't even t got to say much cause if we really were a scam, don't you think we would already be in jail by now? lmao its been like 5 years since we been out! lmao wow... sounds like it takes a LOT of intelligence to be one of the IXP elite  and a LOT of laughing gas apparently...
posted by The ONEder Man |
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 well, i don't know about any of you guys, but 'YOUR ALL JELOUS LMAO' has me hooked! i mean...wow, im convinced! where do i sign up, im ready to give you all of my money for doing nothing! i cant wait! posted by allone |
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 YOUR ALL JELOUS LMAO: lmao don't even t got to say much cause if we really were a scam, don't you think we would already be in jail by now? Did you make that up all by yourself? Or did you read it on your precious manual? You people are so pathetic 
posted by Echelon |
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Echelon: YOUR ALL JELOUS LMAO: lmao don't even t got to say much cause if we really were a scam, don't you think we would already be in jail by now? Did you make that up all by yourself? Or did you read it on your precious manual? You people are so pathetic "You people are so pathetic" EXACTLY you guys got nothing to say now  hahaha you know deep down we're not a scam, hahaha talking all this shit but you guys don't do nothing about it, Why not call the police since you say we scammed you? Got any balls to do that? NO! cause you know we're not a scam! bye! It was great talking to you guys hahaha take care and have a great life
posted by i love iXP |
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hey guys from ixp.net...didn't it used to be called 2by2.net? why the name change to ixp.net? posted by allone |
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XIP is now operating in Honduras!  this kind of rip off companies must be stopped worldwide! posted by guest |
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I don't think IXP is a scam...BUT... IXP's main income is from getting new members. Each member pays his fee. This will generate an income for the referer. But can a referer really get a major income by earning comissions from the e-commerce/internet sales his new recruits do? IXP doesn't offer a good product. Common! Be honest with yourselves! Do you really think they offer a wonderful product? Their products don't stand out from the croud. I beleive IXP active members know the products suck. So, they mainly focus on new members and that's why they keep doing meetings and recruiting people. I don't think there's anythin illegal in this scheme. But... If I become a member, my referer will earn a commission. In fact, I would just have commited a really stupid mistake. So, to get my money back, I will have to recruit a few members. This means I will have to convince some more innocent soul's seeking for an easy money making opportunity. Once I get those innocent souls into the dragon's lair, it will be their turn to try to get new members to be able to get their money back! As you see...THIS IS JUST A DAMN CHAIN OF GETTING RIPPED OFF AND RIPPING SOMEONE ELSE TO RECOVER YOUR MONEY! The sad thing is that very few will really try to get new members to win their money back. Many will fail because in order to convince someone you need to be really deceptive. You would really need to promiss the stars and the sky to get new members. Yes, I know some people are really good at this and it doesn't even bother a little their consciences. But at least me and many others wouln't, because deep down inside we know we would be ripping off others. Yes, some people get considerable incomes. But the people that do are the ones that will promiss the stars and the sky to you, this guys are the ones that don't have a concience and that are just thinking of getting your money. So, Is this illegal? I DON'T THINK IT IS. They don't point a gun to you to become a member. If you became a member and thought after becoming one that you got ripped off...well, you didn't, but you were just stupid enough to believe them and think you would become Bill Gates. This is what I call a LAPSUS STUPIDUS! I do think it should be illegal to make you beleive during the conferences that IXP is heaven. But of course, doesn't any business say wonderful things about their products and services? would you say your product or service is not really good? Of course not, unless your the most stupid sales guy or business manager on earth. So if YOU are thinking of joining IXP, think this before: DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET ALL YOUR FRIENDS, FAMILY AND OTHERS TO JOIN IXP SO THAT YOU CAN GET THE BIG BUCKS? Will you feel good of bringing your mon, dad, brothers, sisters and girlfriend to IXP? WOULDN'T YOU BE ASHAMED? So, if you don't care what you need to do to get money, then this might be for you. If you are a decent and ethical guy (like me ) then this probably won't work for you.
Conclusion: YOU DO THE MATH! posted by Kill-IXP |
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iGNORANT PEOPLE OUT THERE! BEFORE YOU JUDGE LOOK AT YOUR OWN BANK ACCOUNT AND SEE HOW WELL ARE YOU DOING, MAYBE that's THE REASON WHY OTHER PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT LIKE ixp.net OR OTHER MLM COMPANY, SO IF YOUR FRIEND SIGN UP, OR YOUR GIRL'S MOM ALSO SIGN UP! WHAT THE HELL DO YOU CARE, ITS THEIR OWN DECISION, IS THEIR OWN FUTURE AND PLEASE , IF SOMEONE SIGN UP , INSTEAD OF BEING NEGATIVE YOU SHOULD SUPPORT THAT PERSON! WELL BASICALLY COME DOWN TO THIS! YEAH WE HAVE DIAL UP! SO WHAT , AOL HAS DIAL UP AND MAKES 2 BILLIONS $$ A YEAR! AND OUR COMPANY IS ALWAYS ON TOP OF NEW THINGS, LIKE RECENTLY WE JUST LAUNCHED VOIP! THERE IN YOUR FACE! WE ARE COMPETING AGAINST THIS BIG MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES! ITS GROUND FLOOR AND IF YOU don't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vOICE OVER IP INDUSTRY ? ( VOIP IS MAKING PHONE CALLS OVER THE INTERNET), COMON GUYS! YOU GET THE IXP NAME AND DISTRUBUTE OUR TECHNOLOGY LIKE IF IT IS YOURS! AND YOU MAKE MONEY OUT OF IT! WHAT OTHER COMPANY IS GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT? IMAGINE VONAGE SAYS WHE ARE GOING TO LET YOU SELL OUR PRODUCTS AND YOU WILL GET A CUT EVERYTIME THE CLIENT REBILLS FOR LIFE" IXP DO THAT! ITS A NO BRAINER! BECAUSE TO START UP MY OWN VOIP OR DIAL COMPANY I WILL NEED MILLIONS, AND HERE I ONLY NEED TO INVEST $ 350 I GAVE IT A TRY AND IM HAPPY WITH MY DECISION AND WITH MY BANK ACCOUNT
HAVE A NICE DAY GUYS ! posted by josepalacios78 |
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 josepalacios78: iGNORANT PEOPLE OUT THERE!... Dude, you need to check your caps lock key before calling others Ignorant 
posted by Marl64 |
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They raped everybody out here in this part of the country. For any of you who are reading this who want to actually do something about this besides bitching, email me: re747@yahoo.com. posted by MidWest Mastermind |
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 MidWest Mastermind: who want to actually do something about this besides bitching, email me: re747@yahoo.com. Don't give out your email, instead discuss your plans here in this thread. posted by knn |
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Unless I communicate further than this website via email, Instant Messenger, or even cell phone, how else am I supposed to take this matter to the next step? I'm not always on this site 24/7, and I am looking to for fellow supporters from here to keep in touch with, that is if they share the same initiation as I do. AIM: ilinterstate posted by MidWest Mastermind |
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