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 The ONEder Man: Should Humans be cloned? Humans ARE already cloned by nature: identical twins What has your pic to do with cloning? [CLICK HERE TO VIEW THIS PICTURE] posted by knn |
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 knn: What has your pic to do with cloning? what does yours? i changed the question so your loophole does not work now 
posted by The ONEder Man |
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The ONEder Man: what does yours? 1) A lot. Did you read my post at all? 2) Your poll is in breach of Poll Posting Precedures #3 and #11 posted by knn |
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knn: 2) Your poll is in breach of Poll Posting Precedures #3 and #11 what answers are contradictory? if you point it out i will change it, i just don't see it...maybe you think humans should be cloned to be or work slaves AND will be souless automatons? knn: 1) A lot. Did you read my post at all? what's wrong with my pic? it's a general pic portraying 2 identical fetuses, clones of each other if you will.. btw yours has no relation to "should scientist clone humans?" or am i missing something? posted by The ONEder Man |
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 The ONEder Man: what answers are contradictory? yes, only to be our work slaves no, they will be souless automatons What if I think they will work as soulless slaves? The ONEder Man: what's wrong with my pic? it's a general pic portraying 2 identical fetuses Nope, it's 1 fetus and a mirrored copy. The ONEder Man: btw yours has no relation to "should scientist clone humans?" or am i missing something? Yes, this is the female group Trix, consisting of 3 identical triplets = clones. posted by knn |
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knn: Yes, this is the female group Trix, consisting of 3 identical triplets = clones. this has nothing to do with scientists cloning humans, but nature instead... btw do you see what i'm getting at with my other questions? do you see anyway to word them so they will work? knn: yes, only to be our work slaves
no, they will be souless automatons and also add opitions yes, but only to be harvested for organs humans may need no and in addition i find it morally wrong ...i don't see any way of wording them...do you? 
posted by The ONEder Man |
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 Well Twins, Triplets etc. aren't really clones, they're finger prints and other aspects about them are different! Where as a clone should be identical in every aspect! Clones should only be made to become Soylent Green! 
posted by hungarian kid |
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 this is one of those subjects that scares me. someone could take a strand of your hair and make an identical human that looks and acts like you. its scary, ive seen too many movies about cloneing and they all go extremly bad in the end. posted by Agent Zero |
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 Agent Zero: ...that looks and acts like you. Eventually, They would be considerably younger than you so no need to worry about them stealing your girl just yet 
posted by Marl64 |
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 hungarian kid: Well Twins, Triplets etc. aren't really clones, they're finger prints and other aspects about them are different! Where as a clone should be identical in every aspect! Whaaa? Where do you have this from? Scientists HAVE already cloned animals (e.g. Dolly). Clones are genetically identical twins. And the emphasis is on "genetically". Because from the haircolor etc they may look different. posted by knn |
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Agent Zero: this is one of those subjects that scares me. someone could take a strand of your hair and make an identical human that looks and acts like you. its scary, ive seen too many movies about cloneing and they all go extremly bad in the end. Fear. Hate. War. The hidden soul world of Christians. posted by knn |
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The ONEder Man: has nothing to do with scientists cloning humans, but nature instead... And where is the big difference? Whether nature makes a clone by accident or a scientist by knowledge makes no real difference. It's only a "mind issue". The ONEder Man: what's wrong with my pic? it's a general pic portraying 2 identical fetuses So what have 2 fetuses to do with cloning? Let's assume you are a man (e.g. Saddam). Iraqi scientists take 1 of your skin cells. They throw away the Y-chromosome and double the X-Chromosome to produce a "female Saddam". THAT is cloning. Scientists will be able to clone a cow just by having a bit of her milk. posted by knn |
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knn: hungarian kid: Well Twins, Triplets etc. aren't really clones, they're finger prints and other aspects about them are different! Where as a clone should be identical in every aspect! Whaaa? Where do you have this from? Scientists HAVE already cloned animals (e.g. Dolly). Clones are genetically identical twins. And the emphasis is on "genetically". Because from the haircolor etc they may look different. I know clones exist, and I guess if you play around with the words they are Genetic twins! I was saying naturally born twins aren't identical in the same ways clones would be! posted by hungarian kid |
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 hungarian kid: Well Twins, Triplets etc. aren't really clones, they're finger prints and other aspects about them are different! Where as a clone should be identical in every aspect! Why are there so many misconceptions about cloning? Cloning is the process of creating a genetic replica of an organism. The clone WILL NOT be an exact replica of the original organism, because the behaviour of an organism is largely governed by environmental factors, and the physique is also affected to a large extent. Unless a clone receives exactly the same stimuli, ie, EVERY single perception the original organism receives during its lifetime is duplicated, you will not get a replica. It is unclear whether the major factor which decides the characteristics of an organism is the environment and stimuli or the genes. But it is definite that they both play significant roles, and perhaps the debate is meaningless because it is something like soil vs. climate. Why do people believe clones will be exact replicas? Evidently the answer to that is already here: Agent Zero: its scary, ive seen too many movies about cloneing and they all go extremly bad in the end. Knn's analogy of twins is very apt. Clones and twins are theoretically the same. But practically the magnitude of divergence between clones would be much larger than twins, because while twins usually share the same environment, a clone may experience completely different stimuli and conditions. Anyway, this poll is somewhat meaningless, since scientists do not know how to clone organisms. At least, not in any efficient or practical manner. Only an insignificant number of clones survive and most are deformed. Perhaps these obstacles are intrinsic to cloning and will never be overcome. If that is so all these debates about cloning are irrelevant. [CLICK HERE TO VIEW THIS PICTURE] posted by ralph_angelus |
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