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If past lives exist, how do you account for the vast increase in people each generation? Where are all these new souls coming from?

Or how is "soul" that goes from life to life created? How many would there be total? Can one be destroyed?

posted by volonteshiva
  

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volonteshiva:
If past lives exist, how do you account for the vast increase in people each generation?

i'm sure most of you have heard the statistic, but i thought i'd throw it out there for those who haven't...

there are more people alive today then have died throughout history Aaah, is there anything better than to post here and to drink something


posted by The ONEder Man
  I know where you live. I will send a rape commando -- knn

where do we come from



volonteshiva:
If past lives exist, how do you account for the vast increase in people each generation? Where are all these new souls coming from?

Yup, that question bothers me too. Especially if as a soul=spiritual being you exist for hundred thousands of years and never die...
There are so many people now, just as the ONEder Man says. It looks like only half of them (at best) can have souls.
Well, maybe, there are souls we don't know about - like civilizations we didn't find out yet. Or maybe the souls originally come from another than Earth place, or places, and they keep coming, interested in life and experience here. Or maybe the souls can also multiply... split, for example, into two, and still be very powerful. I wonder what happens if the two splits that have forgotten they were one meet...
volonteshiva:
Can one be destroyed?

Probably yes. Everything that has a beginning is supposed to have an end White laugh The question is, what and where is the beginning for a soul. But actually destroying souls doesn't make sense - if we are short of them alrady, we just cannot afford to loose even more. Or maybe you can catch souls - like make a trap and keep it there...
Maybe the souls have always been there? Before everything - and as soon as something interesting appeared, they joined in.


posted by mymla
  

Billions vs. trillions



volonteshiva:
If past lives exist, how do you account for the vast increase in people each generation? Where are all these new souls coming from?

You suggest that there can be a lack of souls. But actually a lack of bodies can also occur. Imagine there are 500 trillion trillion souls. Does it matter when earth's population is 1 billion more or 1 billion less?


posted by knn

If past lives..



...existed then heaven and hell would be empty, everyone would be on earth trying to hijack all the babies!

posted by Crossfade
  

Re: Billions vs. trillions



knn:
volonteshiva:
If past lives exist, how do you account for the vast increase in people each generation? Where are all these new souls coming from?

You suggest that there can be a lack of souls. But actually a lack of bodies can also occur. Imagine there are 500 trillion trillion souls. Does it matter when earth's population is 1 billion more or 1 billion less?

Ok, so where did all these souls come from?
Have they existed since the Big Bang or before in a possible previous universe?
Are they shared among all the different civilizations that might be out there?
What are they doing when they aren't in bodies?


posted by volonteshiva
  

How old are you?



volonteshiva:
What are they doing when they aren't in bodies?

They?

I hope you realize you are talking about YOURSELF. You = A soul in a body. You after death = soul without a body.


posted by knn
  

possessing bodies



Crossfade:
heaven and hell would be empty, everyone would be on earth trying to hijack all the babies

Guess what? There is no heaven and hell other than in some people's imagination. At least I don't think there is any - the idea of heaven and hell is kind of less probable than living endless lives, because both those places would be overpopulated by now and all the difference would be lost.
As far as babies are concerned... Isn't that what is going on now? Thousands of souls searching for a new fortunate body, haunting hospitals. I wonder how they settle conflicts if say three souls want that particular baby body...
If there are so many of them (or rather "us" Very Happy ) as knn suggests, than I guess they don't all spend their time on Earth. There must be other places they can choose to go. Also, I guess in some cases "one of us" can take a non-human body he will consider attracting/beautiful/interesting enough. There are some highly intelligent animals, even too intelligent - like some dogs and horses and cats.


posted by mymla
  

prove it!



knn:
I hope you realize you are talking about YOURSELF. You = A soul in a body. You after death = soul without a body.

Looks like knn is taking this topic really close to heart or something...
We are discussing opportunities here so far, right? If your theory will be consistent enough, we might consider believing it Very Happy
So, knn, it would be nice if you would answer Volonteshiva's questions. I am very much interested too in where then they=we=immortal souls without bodies or currently with bodies typing this all come from?


posted by mymla
  

Ourselves



mymla:
Looks like knn is taking this topic really close to heart or something...

I was simply pointing out that volonteshiva talks about "souls in bodies" but kinda doesn't make the conclusion that, hey, it's OURSELVES in bodies.


posted by knn
  

'New' souls



Where the new souls came from?
Perhaps from the souls of all those extinct species... White laugh

posted by blueSky
  

an answer, please?



knn:
I was simply pointing out that volonteshiva talks about "souls in bodies" but kinda doesn't make the conclusion that, hey, it's OURSELVES in bodies.

Ok, accepted White laugh Though as I said, I guess now it is more of a theoretical discussion which will be applied to ourselves if we are convinced. Cool
Any way, I would be really interested to hear your point of view on where the souls come from after all. You seem to have a very interesting ideas about souls, and the part about their origin is missing yet.


posted by mymla
  

Souls! Now new!



blueSky:
Where the new souls came from?

You assume there are NEW souls?


posted by knn
  

First post



A reference to the notion of new souls expressed in the original post
volonteshiva:
Where are all these new souls coming from?

The problem is with the notion that soul is inside the body, but a way of looking at it can be that our many bodies are flaoting and soaking into a flow of what can be referred as 'soul'.


posted by blueSky
  

Trillions vs Billions



blueSky:
A reference to the notion of new souls expressed in the original post

Yeah but it assumes that there are NEW souls. However, we can only be sure that there are new BODIES. Simply imagine trillions of souls waiting for bodies.


posted by knn
  



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