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..souls are manifested as what we call ghosts, they are in limbo as the person they were untill they can occupy a body with a clean slate so to speak? posted by Crossfade |
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We tend to think soul is inside the body, but I guess it is the body that is floating inside something refered as soul. If the shell cracks, a new shell is found ...untill the vigour of the flow is stopped. posted by blueSky |
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Yes, can be seen that way. Also is there a need to see soul as unique like a partcle? It can be seen as wave. Our physical existance can be seen as of particulate nature and life after life can be seen as that wave-partical duality of our endless existance Meditation is mainly about calming down 'the wave' posted by blueSky |
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blueSky: Also is there a need to see soul as unique like a partcle? It can be seen as wave. Or neither. Not a wave, not a particle. Not energy. Without a mass. Simply not part of this universe, yet with the ability to see this universe. posted by knn |
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I suspect you are refering to what some may call spirit (paramatma, beyond soul), something even subtler than soul. And that is ever free, because by defination it defies all the trappings of a form and name. posted by blueSky |
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blueSky: I suspect you are refering to what some may call spirit (paramatma, beyond soul), something even subtler than soul. No need to bring in other theories. What you call "spirit", others call "souls", others "higher consciousness" and others "etherical bodies". posted by knn |
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Quote: Simply not part of this universe, yet with the ability to see this universe I feel something of this quality shouldn't get trapped into life after life. I feel only when it is little more gross than that, 'it' acquires a trajectory. Words aside, in my understanding, 'soul' is referred to something subtler than physical existance, but something grosser than the ultimate spiritual existence. Anyway, we might be getting caught in definations, but these could be some ways to explain the notion of mismatch between body count and soul count. posted by blueSky |
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blueSky: feel something of this quality shouldn't get trapped into life after life. Can you be hypnotized? Yes? Then you can be trapped. No matter whether yuo are part of this universe or not. posted by knn |
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It is the mind that gets hypnotized. And mind is of this physical existence. 'No mind' is how Moksha/Nirvana is described, that is when one is not of this universe. posted by blueSky |
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blueSky: It is the mind that gets hypnotized. And mind is of this physical existence. 1) Yes, but as long souls USE their mind as a their modus operandi you can say that it's enough to hypnotize the mind to hypnotize the soul 2) I meant hypnotized AND/OR tricked, as the title of my posts said. Please note that my post is offtopic and the correct topic is IMO → What are souls? Anatomy of souls, anatomy of life forms posted by knn |
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1) It can be enough to trap. Mind is part of the complex that I understand as soul. 2) Yes, we went offtopic few posts earlier. But I don't know what you mean by anatomy. Maybe you can start the thread and spell it out. I will join. posted by blueSky |
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knn: volonteshiva: What are they doing when they aren't in bodies? They? I hope you realize you are talking about YOURSELF. You = A soul in a body. You after death = soul without a body. Why do I have to personalize/individualize this discussion? I am inquiring into how the reincarnation system works according to the various systems that promote it/believe in it. Plus saying "you" instead of "they" or "some soul" doesn't pose an answer to the question. posted by volonteshiva |
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blueSky: Yes, we went offtopic few posts earlier. But I don't know what you mean by anatomy. Anatomy of a soul = What parts are there? Mind+Body+Soul = human? Does the body itself have a soul, too (= animal soul that reincarnates independently of you)? posted by knn |
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blueSky: It is the mind that gets hypnotized. And mind is of this physical existence you are arguing what is physical what is not, i don't believe the mind to be physical either...the brain yes, mind? no mind-- 2 a : the element or complex of elements in an individual that feels, perceives, thinks, wills, and especially reasons b : the conscious mental events and capabilities in an organism c : the organized conscious and unconscious adaptive mental activity of an organism the physical brain is what promotes the activity of the mind, unless you are counting the firing of neurons to be the actual mind thus physical in some sort posted by The ONEder Man |
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knn: Anatomy of a soul = What parts are there?
Mind+Body+Soul = human? Does the body itself have a soul, too (= animal soul that reincarnates independently of you)? A way of looking at this... Bigger than physical body is Pranic body, the boundaries of breath patterns of a body. (Like a fan that sucks in and out a body of air). Few hunderd times is the mental/emotional/intellectual body. It touches places from this planet to the milky way. Quite a few physical and pranic bodies are immersed in mental body. And million times the mental body is the spiritual body... in fact it is infinite and just one. In spiritual body we are all one. For that body there is no time and no cycle of life and birth. But in the ocean of this spirit many waves of mind and physical bodies rise and go. Soul can be refered to something that is more than physical, but not quite in the realm of the oneness of spiritual body. Another way to look at this is... Worldly existence is - more matter + some energy, with particulate quality Soul is mostly energy with a wave like quality Spirit is subtler than even matter and energy. There is no gross expression for it. All practices are for shifting focus from gross material identification to the 'one' subtle spiritual identification. posted by blueSky |
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