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Moore is a FLAMING liberal. a liberal is someone who basically is michael moore. they talk tons of mess about there country and say its leaders are horrible people and stuff. the deffinition is crap. liberals are extremists. posted by Agent Zero |
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| in-my-opinion.orgPoliticsPolitics and Crime (Assorted topics)What means liberal? Michael Moore is an example |
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Now the dictionary is wrong posted by Marl64 |
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yes the dictionary is a lieing flaming bag of crap...no. im just saying you cant get the real definition of a liberal from that. you know what i mean. posted by Agent Zero |
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define a term that is constantly changing and different in different countries and even different to different people? The most basic concept has already been answered. In america, a liberal wants more and more government control over what is not under government control right now. Liberals want more taxes and more laws regulating what people can and can't do. Conservatives want less government participation is private affairs. They don't think that the government should not exist, but that the government should remain within it's bounds and not try to regulate everything. They want less taxes. posted by liberal slayer |
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Quote: a liberal wants more and more government control over what is not under government control right now. Liberals want more taxes The direct opposite of the liberal parties where I grew up: Liberals want less taxes, less laws, less government... But how do those definitions apply to Michael Moore? posted by knn |
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IMO → What means liberal?#3752 my post at the bottom... plus the reason liberal might not mean what you think it means knn is this... The answer to this question, as used in political connotation, requires an understanding of the respective terms. This process involves the semantics of their use in discourse.
It stands to reason that a mutual understanding of the words and terms when utilized in discussions is required for communication between the parties involved to convey true meaning to the discourse. This is especially true when the words and terms are expressed in ideological and political platforms and through the media to the public at large. Unfortunately the dictionary usually only deals in defining words and is insufficient in providing the required semantical definition necessary for one to clearly obtain true meaning in their actual application. To further confuse the issue, we find in conversation the interchange of the words liberal with being "to the left" and conservative as being "to the right". This apparently arose from the use of the terms in the parliaments of foreign countries; the parts of the parliamentary chambers located to the right and left of the presiding officers accordingly representing conservative and liberal elements respectively. Adding additional complication we find, at times, connotations used tying "to the far right" as tending towards fascism and "to the far left" towards socialism or even communism. Unfortunately, these terms are flagrantly interchanged by activists, politicians and those in the media. This results in the public receiving distorted and frequently misrepresentation of the facts. Our interest here is to the mis-information being conveyed to the American people that accordingly distorts their ability to clearly understand the meaning of the rhetoric to which they are exposed. Looking to the past, it is no wonder that confusion exists regarding the understanding of what the terms liberal and conservative really mean. It is only in the last century that the term liberal has become associated with socialism. This collectivist ideology involves the redistribution of income and wealth with an accordingly greater control by the central government over the interactions of economic enterprise. Prior to this evolutionary change, being liberal had the reverse meaning of being in strong support of individual freedom with an attendant limited role of government in one’s life. The term liberalism was coined in Europe somewhere in the late 17th or early 18th century to represent a political philosophy that emphasized limited government with individual freedom and civil liberties. It promoted representative government and property rights along with freedom of religion In economic matters it favored non-interference from government since the forces of the marketplace would provide the best results for the nation’s people. Thus, at its prime liberalism represented limited government with a separation of powers among the legislative, executive, and judicial branches and economic free enterprise. Sounds like present day conservatism doesn’t it? The term conservatism was coined to represent beliefs that arose to counter liberalism . Essentially, it supported the existing distribution of power, wealth and attendant social status. These beliefs included emphasizing faith and tradition ahead of freedom of thought and speech, as well as, supporting the total interest of society over those of its individual members. Sounds to a degree like present day liberalism doesn’t it? Unlike Europe, America in the process of enacting a Constitution had developed political beliefs that included economic individualism and the limitation of government power. This was incorporated into the Constitution. This did not follow the beliefs underlying European conservatism but was in fact closer to European liberalism. The American beliefs accepted the concepts of a free market and the personal acquisition of property by individuals. Individual freedoms and property rights were representative of attendant moral, religious, political, and civil rights. As the provisions of the Constitution decreed, the federal government was limited to acting in those areas wherein the states themselves did not have that ability, in inter-state matters and in foreign relations. Great importance was placed on separation of powers, judicial review, and states' rights as opposed to federal power. This then became the foundation of American conservatism. this is from the link on the bottom of the post i just listed...[/b] posted by The ONEder Man |
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The time now is 23 May 2012, 20:24 php B.B. |