»If past lives exist, then remembering them is important«
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 blueSky: Knowing past life is not that important... Nothing is more importatnt than present moment. But come on, the present logically is the result of actions you took in the past, right? And thus if you had lives before this all-important present moment, they must have influenced the present. So, to be able to see the present correctly you have to take past lives into account. I understand it if you say that the present moment is the most important because you can use it to analyse your past and try to form the future, but denying that your past lives don't mean anything... kind of weird and inconsistent. posted by mymla |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsIf past lives exist, then remembering them is important |
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 mymla: understand it if you say that the present moment is the most important because you can use it to analyse your past and try to form the future, but denying that your past lives don't mean anything... kind of weird and inconsistent. if you don't believe in them it's very consistant posted by The ONEder Man |
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But let say not focusing on. We look ahead when we drive. Yes, occasionaly look back if you can. But focus on where one should be going. posted by blueSky |
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 The ONEder Man: if you don't believe in them it's very consistant If you don't believe in past or future lives the nothing is REALLY important. You could nuke the whole planet and it wouldn't really matter. posted by knn |
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 knn: The ONEder Man: if you don't believe in them it's very consistant If you don't believe in past or future lives the nothing is REALLY important. You could nuke the whole planet and it wouldn't really matter. I don't agree w/ that. Just because one might believe you get one life to live doesn't mean that person thinks existence and the future don't matter. Under these ideals, nuking the planet would deprive future people from existing. The belief that you are "immortal" through the continuing lives of your offspring is a comfort for many and doesn't require reincarnation. posted by volonteshiva |
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knn: If you don't believe in past or future lives the nothing is REALLY important. You could nuke the whole planet and it wouldn't really matter. my life right now is important, the lives of my offspring will be important to me. if i wish to nuke the planet that would jeopardize my children therefore you don't need past lives to make this life meaingful posted by The ONEder Man |
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The ONEder Man: my life right now is important, the lives of my offspring will be important to me. No, then they only SEEM meaningful. But I meant in a global overall view. But tis is kinda offtopic. You should start a new topic "Are past/future lives important to give life a meaning?" posted by knn |
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knn: The ONEder Man: my life right now is important, the lives of my offspring will be important to me. No, then they only SEEM meaningful. But I meant in a global overall view. What are you talking about? If you don't believe in reincarnation, then a person's one life is very important and their children's lifes are important because that is how one's legacy lives on. And this can have overal global meaning. If all people put effort into this life, it can have alot of meaning for us and for the future. posted by volonteshiva |
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 Past and future lives are not any more important in giving meaning to life than is god. Or at least, that is how it should be. People should learn to enjoy their lives, and lead good lives, regardless as to whether or not there is an eternity and what happens when they rejoin it. Religious people can't comprehend how morality can exist without god. Which really says something about them. If the fear of god were suddenly revealed to be a hoax, would they persist in their morality? posted by Tiefling |
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Imagine you would forget what you had done a few years ago: All language skills gone. Your job - you don't remember a single thing. Remembering your past lives is important, because forgetting sucks. And being a baby/going to school for 25 years ever 75 years sucks too. posted by knn |
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knn: Remembering your past lives is important, because forgetting sucks. We should remember past lives because it sucks to forget them? That's not a good reason to remember your past lives. For all I know, if past lives exist, I was an aborted fetus in the past 300 lives. Why would it suck to forget that? knn: Imagine you would forget what you had done a few years ago: All language skills gone. Your job - you don't remember a single thing. This analogy doesn't work. The person would know that he was suffering from amnesia, based on the fact that all around him, people would have complete memories of their pasts and he would have none. And he would be at a distinct disadvantage to everyone around him, because he would have no skills, friends or family. Whereas regarding reincarnation, it's just a belief that past lives can be remembered. No proof. And people who don't claim to know anything about their past lives can be just as successful, happy, and fulfilled as people who claim to know every past life they've ever lived. posted by Tiefling |
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Tiefling: We should remember past lives because it sucks to forget them? That's not a good reason to remember your past lives. For all I know, if past lives exist, I was an aborted fetus in the past 300 lives. Why would it suck to forget that? 1) Why would it suck to remember them? 2) If you have been aborted the last 300 lives then something probably happened 301 lives ago that caused so many abortions. You should remember that. 3) And  please no extreme cases. Aborted your last 300 lives? How unlikely is that?
4) 300 is not such a big number. It's only 300 out of possible millions. Tiefling: This analogy doesn't work. The person would know that he was suffering from amnesia, based on the fact that all around him, people would have complete memories of their pasts and he would have none. But that's the trick: Since you get a new body, all around him ARE clueless. And they themselves sit in the same trap: Forgetting everything every 75 years or so. Tiefling: The person would know that he was suffering from amnesia No, he would forget that too. posted by knn |
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Where is memory? I think most of it is physical. Only some of it transcends body in form of deep hidden impressions to what we tend to call as ‘soul’. Say...most of our memory is as if in hard-drive (physical body), while a small fraction of it gets uploaded to soul as deep hidden impressions. In new life, old hard drive is destroyed; and a new one is installed with the hidden impressions downloaded back into it. The new drive creates its own log and memory. If death is like reformatting and smashing your old hard drive, having to get to the old physical memory would be like recovering all those lost pieces. It may not be reasonable in first place to look for it in the ‘new’ drive for the memories of the previous hard drive. The way we are looking and where we are looking is another problem. posted by blueSky |
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knn: 1) Why would it suck to remember them? Well, because that would really make you feel like a wretched creature, wouldn't it? knn: 2) If you have been aborted the last 300 lives then something probably happened 301 lives ago that caused so many abortions. You should remember that. Good point. It might help to show you how you can avoid having that happen in the next 300 lives. At the same time, however, I think there is a danger in looking to past lives to explain your current one. You can end up believing that every single thing that happens to you is a reflection of something, good or bad, that occurred in a past life. To play upon your analogy, it's like those people who live in the past, only remembering the way things used to be. They've ceased to live for the now, and for the future. And I think the same thing can happen to people who focus too much upon past lives. posted by Tiefling |
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blueSky: If death is like reformatting and smashing your old hard drive, having to get to the old physical memory would be like recovering all those lost pieces. I guess the question there is how useful those pieces are, versus the cost of recovering them. posted by Tiefling |
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