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knnknn:
And since the word trinity isn't even slightly mentioned they don't believe that Jesus and God were one.

What's the word trinity got to do with it? That Jesus was God is clearly stated in John chapter one. 'In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God'. This interesting symbolism finishes with the sentence: no one has ever seen God but the son has made him known. This is because Jesus IS 'the word' (or logos) that is mentioned earlier in the passage.

I'll accept that anywhere else in the New Testament it only ever says SON of God or 'Son of Man'. However, to say that the new testament does not claim Jesus to be God is simply not to read the gospel.


posted by fatpie42
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The word was a god


I'll accept that anywhere else in the New Testament it only ever says SON of God or 'Son of Man'. However, to say that the new testament does not claim Jesus to be God is simply not to read the


Well, who could argue better than Jehova's witnesses themselves:
Go to

and search for "trinity" and read all of the _highly_ interesting result pages, especially


posted by knn
  



jehovas witnesses are not christians. the deffinition of a christian is someone who follws and believes Christ. now would you say they follow Him? maybe but they deffently don't believe Him. those people are kinda wacked out of there gord!

posted by Agent Zero
  

Johnny B. Goode


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the deffinition of a christian is someone who follws and believes Christ. now would you say they follow Him?

Sure, whom else? John?


posted by knn
  

oh wait


sorry my bad i mean to they believe him? id say no cause they don't believe he is the son of God..

posted by Agent Zero
  

Inform before spread


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they don't believe he is the son of God..

Go to their website and give me a statement that says this.


posted by knn
  

DAMNIT


im sorry again im not saying what im meaning, i meant to say, they do not believe jesus is God, not on there site at all...



they basically say he is God's prophet and one of the many sons...right? that's what i got...are you a jehovas witness knn?

posted by Agent Zero
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Jehovah used the prehuman Jesus as his "master worker&a


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When on earth Jesus cured the sick, fed the hungry, and calmed storms. He even raised the dead. Why did he perform miracles? (1) He felt pity for people who were suffering, and he wanted to help them. (2) His miracles proved that he was God's Son. (3) They showed what he will do for obedient mankind when he rules as King over the earth.—Matthew 14:14; Mark 2:10-12; John 5:28, 29.

That sounds pretty believing in Jesus to me.
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they basically say he is God's prophet and one of the many sons...right?

No. The site says: "Jesus is the only Son that God created by himself"
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are you a jehovas witness knn?

I won't tell you that. As the forum admin my beliefs shouldn't take a prominent place.

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posted by knn
  



i think they should...hehe

once again you misunderstood me, they believe he is the son of God but not God in the flesh like all christians do.

posted by Agent Zero
  

Trinity is not necessary to be a Christian


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they believe he is the son of God but not God in the flesh like all christians do

Where is this idea from? That you have to believe in Trinity to be a Christian?


posted by knn
  



To be a christian means to believe everything in the new testament, to follow and believe Christs words...

posted by Agent Zero
  

Interpret this


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To be a christian means to believe everything in the new testament, to follow and believe Christs words...

Jehova's witnesses believe everything. Except some INTERPRETATIONS, for example trinity.


posted by knn
  

Dingoes Kidneys


Muslims would not describe themselves as Christian despite accepting Jesus as a prophet and believing in the new testament.

A Christian is someone who believes that Jesus is God (and that therefore salvation is provided through him). Jehovah's Witnesses would not describe Jesus as the source of their salvation and would, presumably, not see the crucifixion as saving them from their sins. As a result they are not Christian. (Christianity has the cross as its symbol for a reason!)

Jehovah's Witnesses are another religion. Not a denomination of Christianity... I personally think jehovah's witnessism is a pile of dingoes kidneys, but I wouldn't want to offend anyone who actually believes in it.

posted by fatpie42
  



haha yes or you could call them a cutl, like mormons! Very Happy

posted by Agent Zero
  

Still waiting for that source


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A Christian is someone who believes that Jesus is God

WHERE do you have this from? And you seem to be very sure, that the first Christians believed that too.

Please read

before stating that Trinity is, oh, so obvious for every Christian believer.


posted by knn
  



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