»Are you religous?«
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 If you're religious, say what religion you follow or if there is now particular one, just write what you believe. Also list the reason(s) you believe what you believe. I used to be Christian, but I slowly pondered the stories from the bible and existence and all that and concluded there was atleast one god, but not in the way the bible depicts. posted by hungarian kid |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsAre you religous? |
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 I'm Catholic. However, I don't take what the religion teaches at face value. There are certain aspects of the church I agree with and always will agree with. However, there are many things that I disagree with and unless they're changed, always will. posted by GP |
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 I have been obsessed with theology for some time now and I have come to the conclusion that religion is irrelevant to the following things: Morality God/Divine Beings Life after death Why is that? Well let me explain- Morality It is one of the most popular myths that religious scripture is a rulebook for morality. The Bible for example is completely useless for gauging right and wrong. It doesn't mention abortion, it doesn't mention euthanasia and it fails to adequately define "murder". What religion is good at is dealing with how people approach moral dilemmas. It has been noted by many a religious leader that intention is what defines moral action. Religious teaching does not define eternal rights and wrongs. It is more concerned with instilling in believers a psychology whereby they will be most likely to think about how they can be moral all the time. God/ Divine Beings Nearly everybody who thinks about these things always thinks of something human-like. Angels are always people with wings. God is always a big man in the clouds with a big white beard. Any concept of God that religion will care about is far less literal about terms like "hand" "king" "touch". Any idea of "feeling God in THIS room" (as opposed to any other room) is ridiculous. Let's get this straight. Religion doesn't have any interest in how the universe was created, how many universes there are, whether man has a common origin with apes and it certainly doesn't care about dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are dead and buried. Whether anything purposefully created dinosaurs or anything else on this planet does not make any difference to religion. Religion is concerned with man and how he lives his life now. The beginning of the universe happened a long time ago - get over it! Life After Death Even within the Bible there is no reason to worry about life after death (whether it exists or not). Take a look at Ecclesiastes chapter 9 (especially verse 10). I would not be one to call the Bible the be-all and end-all of all human wisdom, but this part is very interesting. Religion is concerned with how we live now. Religion should not care about a life beyond. For the biblical quote - (in sheol - basically means 'in the grave')wyllie.lib.virginia.edu... posted by fatpie42 |
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When we were in Mex the religious debates were really interesting. What's happened? posted by fatpie42 |
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 ...upon the definition of "religious". posted by knn |
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What is your definition then? My point was that moral guidelines, life after death and belief in divine beings would not be enough to make you religious. What is left behind is an interesting question... posted by fatpie42 |
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 as for me, I was brought up in a Roman Catholic house, and was confirmed in the faith. I never understood some of the dogma, though, and lost my faith in the Catholic Church a few years after my Confirmation. I dabbled in Wicca, (never could get into the rituals and chanting spells) and then I read a most enlightening book, The Jesus Mysteries. It describes the Gnostic Christians as a Mystery cult ('Esoteric School' is a better term) who created the myth of Christ out of Pagan and Jewish traditions. The Mystery schools (Pagan, Jewish, etc.) encoded what's called the 'perennial philosophy' (i.e., all too briefly, 'All is One') in their myths. This led me to the Greek philosophers and others who may have been involved in Mystery schools. The perennial philosophy is the closest thing to my view of spirituality that I have found so far. In that respect, I am spiritual, which I think answers the question adequately. posted by annaerullo |
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Quote: What is your definition then Believing in something spiritual: "A higher meaning" or "There is more to humans than just a body" etc posted by knn |
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so you have to believe in a soul in order to be religious? What about buddhists who do not believe in the soul? posted by fatpie42 |
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Quote: so you have to believe in a soul in order to be religious No. Quote: What about buddhists who do not believe in the soul? Who told you that? Sure they do, otherwise reincarnation would not have a real meaning, and their demons and gods posted by knn |
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 in fact it is my belief that humans invented reilgion and god etc in order to deny the fact that we are but mere mortal and that belief of heaven and the after life is for those who cannot cope with the possibility that after they die...they are nothing posted by the anomaly |
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 GPieters: I'm Catholic. However, I don't take what the religion teaches at face value. There are certain aspects of the church I agree with and always will agree with. However, there are many things that I disagree with and unless they're changed, always will. I'm pretty much the same as you are, although there are just a few things about the Roman Catholic church that don't strike me as quite right. It's more of a "love your neighbor as yourself" thing for me. posted by northern_james |
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I'm afraid you are wrong there knn. Buddhists do not believe in a soul. It's hard to understand, but buddha explains that there is nothing which persists - all is impermanent. A soul is something which has a continued identity and that is not the same as the thing which is reincarnated. The new dalai lama will have the similar traits as the old one, but that does not mean they are the same self. If they do not have the same self then how can they be classed as having the same soul? Buddha, when quizzed on this, gave the example of a fire. He said when the fire goes out where has it gone? It is not true to say it is reborn or is not reborn. It simply is not there anymore for the moment. You can make a new fire by relighting it, but it isn't what you'd call 'the same fire'. posted by fatpie42 |
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Quote: I'm afraid you are wrong there knn. Buddhists do not believe in a soul. It's hard to understand, but buddha explains that there is nothing which persists - all is impermanent Nope. There are no Christians, there are no Buddhists. There are so many sects, it's hard to tell anything. Unless you say a specific sect ("Catholics") I cannot tell anything. One thing is for sure: A spiritual soul is not mentioned in the bible. Only if you have a "vision" or if you enter heaven as Jesus. Even god is pretty much a body: Wandering around in the garden, sitting on a chair, having meetings with Moses in a tent. posted by knn |
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"What good is it for a man to gain the world yet to forfeit his soul?" I thought Jesus said that in the Bible? posted by fatpie42 |
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