»Does life after death make sense? Does a dead God make sense«
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 Ok. I've just been told that this a perfectly normal idea and the idea of a dead God is not. I would like to point out that they are just as ridiculous as each other. In fact, if anything the former is more ridiculous than the latter. The idea of a dead god is quite a common idea in ancient religions:  And in fact if you are going to have the supernatural being why should it not be able to die just like any other living thing? On the other hand afterlife is very strange. Certainly many people have believed in the afterlife for a long time, but have they had any reason to? A failure to understand the concept of mortality seems to be the only reason. There is an argument that we see the world around us as if it were alive. Even non-living objects. And then we learn how to differentiate; we begin to see areas 'as' non-living. If we fail to understand dead bodies as non-living then we have obviously made a big mistake. The same goes for dead people. Failing to understand the idea of a dead God is simply showing a lack of reasoning skills. Failing to understand the idea of mortality is what causes the idea of the afterlife. posted by fatpie42 |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsDoes life after death make sense? Does a dead God make sense |
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 fatpie42: Ok. I've just been told that this a perfectly normal idea and the idea of a dead God is not. No I didn't say that at IMO → Is God Dead?#26021 I said that a question "Does a life after body death exist?" is much more understandable than "Is god dead?". posted by knn |
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fatpie42: A failure to understand the concept of mortality seems to be the only reason...
Failing to understand the idea of a dead God is simply showing a lack of reasoning skills. Failing to understand the idea of mortality is what causes the idea of the afterlife. I disagree. There may be many reasons why someone believes in past/future life times. "I believe in peace because I fail to understand the concept of war" is a similar statement and similarily untrue. posted by knn |
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knn: fatpie42: Failing to understand the idea of a dead God is simply showing a lack of reasoning skills. Failing to understand the idea of mortality is what causes the idea of the afterlife. I disagree. Well that's your opinion. posted by fatpie42 |
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fatpie42: Well that's your opinion. Yeah, and that's a forum called "In my opinion" 
And I think there can be many causes for something and not only "the inability to grasp the opposite" as you claim. posted by knn |
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 if you are talking of a God that is eternal and omnipotent isn't it, by definition, impossible for this being to perrish? I also find the parrallel that for an athiest it is just as hard to understand that there is a being that may not be able to die as well. posted by The ONEder Man |
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Eternity doesn't make any sense anymore. Nothing that anyone has ever experienced is eternal. If God knew everything he should know that. Even so, maybe the classical God would be unable to die in a literal sense, but the idea that a God could die is far from unheard of. If you look at the link, even Zeus has a grave. Actually I take that back. Why can't something be dead for eternity, or dead eternally? And if something is omnipotent then isn't an inability to die a limitation? posted by fatpie42 |
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The ONEder Man: I also find the parrallel that for an athiest it is just as hard to understand that there is a being that may not be able to die as well. Hey, good shot! I love this forum! posted by knn |
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The ONEder Man: it is just as hard to understand that there is a being that may not be able to die as well. That's because there is no being that is unable to die. That includes God doesn't it, if he's omnipotent? posted by fatpie42 |
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fatpie42: Eternity doesn't make any sense anymore. Oha  fatpie42: but the idea that a God could die is far from unheard of. If you look at the link, even Zeus has a grave. And noone doubted that. But it's quite unheard. fatpie42: And if something is omnipotent then isn't an inability to die a limitation? Hey, good idea, have added it to my poll IMO → What powers does God have? posted by knn |
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knn: fatpie42: but the idea that a God could die is far from unheard of. If you look at the link, even Zeus has a grave. And noone doubted that. But it's quite unheard. Well that's a problem with the education system then. James George Frazer is a major figure in theology and wrote his book in the ninteenth century. You would have thought the ideas in it would be common knowledge by now... posted by fatpie42 |
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fatpie42: That's because there is no being that is unable to die. You are defining being = body. Therein lies your unproven (gothic) premise. posted by knn |
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knn: fatpie42: That's because there is no being that is unable to die. You are defining being = body. Therein lies your unproven (gothic) premise. I am not defining being as anything. There is NOTHING that we know of that we would describe as 'alive' that is unable to die. It may not be proven, but it is at least scientific. posted by fatpie42 |
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fatpie42: Well that's a problem with the education system then. No, it's YOUR problem with what you think should be taught and known. I don't think Nietzsche should be taught. If you like philosophy then study it and get confused. I cannot help myself, but everytime I see an old philosophy student with a long beard or someone dressed like a gothic I have the instant idea "Yup, the study of philosophy and the answers by religion have failed again". posted by knn |
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fatpie42: It may not be proven, but it is at least scientific. But now you are fleeing into "Science". You start the topic as "Can god die", I state "what dies is the body" and you say, "Science doesn't confirm". A killer-argument with which you can kill every religious discussion. 
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