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 knn: sangu:fatpie, can you give me some quotes or books in the bible that show that?
Offtopic. Start a thread ok, so here's the new thread. a little background info: fatpie42: The God of the Bible is definitely a God of wrath, even if He is given loving qualities. so i said, sangu: fatpie, can you give me some quotes or books in the bible that show that? i know they are out there but i want to counteract with other quotes that show the opposite. because you seem to be really "biased" (or is that the right word?) into thinking God is like "a strict overseeing judge". so here you go knn. posted by sangu |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical Topicsbible quotes about God's image |
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 If you read the book, it is a wonderful piece of literature explaining the inherent problems of intolerance linked with a religions concepts of identity.  (the link also allows you to read a sample chapter) The quotation she gives in a later chapter is this one: Exodus 20: 5-6 "For I the LORD your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me, but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments" NRSV I can't be bothered to write this next one out, but I think you'll find it quite gruesome. It ends with the phrase from Moses "Today you have ordained yourselves for the sevice of the LORD each one at the cost of a son or a brother, and so have brought a blessing on yourselves this day" Exodus 32: 25-29 Oh and there's always the graphic curses in Deuteronomy. This God has one sick imagination!: Deut 28: 28-34 (may it be pointed out that in this book of the Bible there are 14 verses of blessings followed by 54 verses of curses!) I think that should get you started. If you want more you could read the book. posted by fatpie42 |
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Found this when trying to find stuff to help with the Humanism society i'm going to set up at my university. It suggests that more Christians should be rejecting their God for moral reasons:  Richard Swinburne has suggested that God has the right to do anything He pleases. However, I think most of us would like to think that God was capable of living up to greater standards of morality than that. posted by fatpie42 |
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most of the quotes you have are from the old testament. this thread: IMO → Old Testament relevant for Christians? Eating shellfish OK? explains why the new testament is different from the old testament (the concept of a new bond). im a christian, not a jew, and christianity is based mostly on the new testament. fatpie42: Exodus 20: 5-6 God is like a parent; he punishes and he blesses. he isnt all hugs and kisses, nor is he all spankings and...yeah. fatpie42: Exodus 32: 25-29 again, the difference between the old testament and new testament (it is quite gross). in the O.T., there was a covenant: follow and obey God and God will bless you. if you sinned, you had to give a sacrifice (animals) to God. in the N.T., the new covenant was: repent, accept Jesus into your life and follow him and you will have eternal life and blessings. you didn't have to give any sacrifices, Jesus took the punishment by dying on the cross so all you had to do is pray and ask for forgiveness. the israelites in that four verses forsook God. they broke the covenant. i must say in the O.T. there are some rather  stuff. like cutting off part of your penis...
that's why we have the N.T.  fatpie42: Deut 28: 28-34 owww...all i can say is that this is the O.T. so things are different. you can actually ask for forgiveness now instead of those animal sacrifices fatpie42: may it be pointed out that in this book of the Bible there are 14 verses of blessings followed by 54 verses of curses!) that's one book. try psalms, there're 150 chapters and more on the positive side... posted by sangu |
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Their friends, sons and brothers are not animal sacrifices. It doesn't have to be the same covenant for it to be relevant. It only has to be the same God (unless you deny that God is unchanging). posted by fatpie42 |
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fatpie42: Their friends, sons and brothers are not animal sacrifices. they rebelled, that was their punishment. i asked my dad and here's what he said, "but that was O.T. what happened here is nothing than whats going to happen in the endtime (eternal fire in hell). so get your perspective right. submit to God. stop using your intellectual reasoning in an attempt to argue against God. do something instead of debating all the time and stop wasting your (talking to me) on these forums. they'll never going to listen to you." posted by sangu |
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 sangu: i asked my dad and here's what he said sounds like someone with a close ended mind...along the same lines as dinosaur bones were put here to test my faith 
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The ONEder Man: sounds like someone with a close ended mind...along the same lines as dinosaur bones were put here to test my faith he is VERY close minded; but he does have a couple points. is all my arguments here going to avail to nothing? posted by sangu |
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sangu: is all my arguments here going to avail to nothing? this is in-my-opinion.org not prove-you-wrong.org just cuz your not agreed with doesn't mean your points are any less valid...i don't understand what you are trying to say...if your talking about converting, then i'd say yes posted by The ONEder Man |
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Sounds like he's scared that I'm going to convince you not to believe in Christianity. Back to the debate. The point I was making is that God is asking them to kill their brothers and their sons and their friends in order to be right with God. What did their brother and their son and their friend ever do to deserve this? How does killing someone else make you right with God? If you are going to say that this God in the OT is a different God to the one incarnated in Christ then that's fine. But if you are not going to say that then this "Oh, that's just the OT not the NT" argument doesn't stand up so well. posted by fatpie42 |
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fatpie42: If you are going to say that this God in the OT is a different God to the one incarnated in Christ then that's fine. there are different rules in the OT than in the NT. fatpie42: What did their brother and their son and their friend ever do to deserve this? followed another god, breaking the covenant. posted by sangu |
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sangu: fatpie42: If you are going to say that this God in the OT is a different God to the one incarnated in Christ then that's fine. there are different rules in the OT than in the NT. Is there a different God though? sangu: fatpie42: What did their brother and their son and their friend ever do to deserve this? followed another god, breaking the covenant. Oh well, that's fair enough then 
posted by fatpie42 |
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 sangu: most of the quotes you have are from the old testament. Doesn't matter. The god of the Old testament is the same as of the New Testament. I cannot see how the new testament eradicates god's mass murderings in the old testament. posted by knn |
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fatpie42: How does killing someone else make you right with God? Ask the Muslim suicide terrorists. It's a similar concept that also lies in the denial of any logical moral and submission under a moral of a god (= of someone interpreting 3000+ year old scriptures) posted by knn |
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Sadly enough they don't think of the people they kill as innocent. Often they are brainwashed first. Maybe you are right. Maybe the passage (Exodus 32: 25-29) is a similar mentality to a suicide bombing. Sad isn't it? posted by fatpie42 |
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