»Is homosexuality immoral?«
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 I hate how every forum about homosexuality goes the same direction. It always ends up being a debate over whether or not it spreads AIDS or is harmful in some other way. Sadly, those arguments never get anywhere. But, sadder still, the idea that, without the harm, homosexuality is OK, is taken for granted. I'm here to say that homosexuality is immoral, no matter how much or how little disease it causes, and no matter how "natural" it may be. Some of you believe that morality is merely a means of religious bigotry, and therefore you debunk morality altogether. However, no doubt, in the back of your mind, there are morals which you believe to be immune to this "debunking" process. hungarian kid: You're a biassed fuck! What's wrong with homosexuality? Ummm... thank you, but you are every bit as biased as he is. However, since everyone here on the forum seems to share your bias, you can hardly see it anymore. Not everyone rejects moral values like you fellas do, in favor of this "tolerance" which allows you to act any indecent way you want. Some people actually attempt to live their life by their conscience, and encourage others to do the same. Quote: Morality is a kind of bias, against what you consider to be wrong. Yes, morality is a bias, but it is a rational one with a basis in objective truth. It is not within the realm of mere opinion. posted by stinkz |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsIs homosexuality immoral? |
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 stinkz: Ummm... thank you, but you are every bit as biased as he is. However, since everyone here on the forum seems to share your bias, you can hardly see it anymore. Not everyone rejects moral values like you fellas do, in favor of this "tolerance" which allows you to act any indecent way you want. Some people actually attempt to live their life by their conscience, and encourage others to do the same. ok... so then what should be done with all these homos and their indecent ways against God? Should we just have another Flood and wipe out all the wicked people? Or just round up all the gays and send the to xian conversion camp for a few weeks? Humans use of xianty has spread enough hate through the centuries against those who are different. Humanity doesn't need more dislike of differences. Humanity is not going to survive by telling it's ranks how wrong their existence is. posted by volonteshiva |
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I cannot help but assume but one answer from most of the folks at this site. Everyone has been bred to believe that "tolerance" is the highest moral, and that every precept from traditional morality, aside from this one, is subject to fallibility. And therefore, they would be doing something "immoral" by calling homosexuality immoral. Well, how dare you judge me, by saying that I'm immoral for calling their actions what they are, an immoral perversion. posted by stinkz |
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 Please read the Poll Posting Procedures and correct your poll. posted by knn |
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I've read them. Please tell me which rule I am breaking. Have I not made the answers biased enough towards the belief you were expecting? posted by stinkz |
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 stinkz: by saying that I'm immoral for calling their actions what they are, an immoral perversion. Er I really can't be bothered getting into a debate about it! Just consider it like this, is it immoral being born with a disability? I'm not saying homosexuality is a disability but surely enough, some people are born withit! Maybe god DOES want them to convert to heterosexuality, but if they're good people, shouldn't he judge them fairly anyway? For all you know homosexuals are gods way of testing his own believers to see how tolerant they are! But by your standards it is consider immoral, and that is fair enough, but by my standards, it's only immoral if it is actually harming someone else in one way or another! posted by hungarian kid |
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stinkz: I've read them. Please tell me which rule I am breaking. Have I not made the answers biased enough towards the belief you were expecting? Please simply add (o) Don't know / Have no opinion / Depends posted by knn |
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I think we're not supposed to reply in poll things... but this is exactly what I was expecting... and why I didn't care to start a poll about such a thing. hungarian kid: is it immoral being born with a disability? Is it wrong being born with a tendency towards alcoholism? Is alcoholism still bad? Exactly. hungarian kid: For all you know homosexuals are gods way of testing his own believers to see how tolerant they are! Yes, that's it. God's main principle is to see how much immorality a person can allow, and be comfortable with. People... get rid of your secular half-moralities (tolerance), in favor of the morality of humanity. hungarian kid: But by your standards it is consider immoral, and that is fair enough, but by my standards, it's only immoral if it is actually harming someone else in one way or another! If there wasn't one universal morality, that explanation would be fine. posted by stinkz |
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stinkz: I think we're not supposed to reply in poll things... No, I abolished this rule. posted by knn |
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Alrighty then. Cool. Thanks!  posted by stinkz |
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stinkz: Is it wrong being born with a tendency towards alcoholism? Is alcoholism still bad? Exactly. Who ever said alcoholism was bad? An addiction to a drug is a different thing from a sexuality! It may seem just a pleasureable thing to you, but I think they have no choice! Try forcing a Catholic to wear a Yamaka and goto Synagogue every sunday despite his beliefs! The key IS tolerance as you have to accept that homosexuality barely even fits under morals as it's something some people are born with! Babies born with Heroin addictions aren't automatically immoral are they? posted by hungarian kid |
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Homosexuality is a perversion, like all other sexual perversions. You are not "born with it" as the psychologists would like to make you believe. Even if there are genetic predispositions towards it, that doesn't mean that the action shouldn't still be discouraged. During a psychology class at this university, a study was discussed. The study was about increasing male and female hormones in homosexuals. It was found that an increase in testosterone increased the sexual activity of the homosexuals, but it was still toward males. Homosexuality is obviously a choice. Our society's promiscuity is causing it to be popular. Due to lack of temperance, self-control, and overall good sense, sex itself is no longer exciting enough, so of course, people turn to perversions. However, the perversion will not be any more satisfying. The more one chases after the lusts of the flesh, the less pleasure they will give him, and the more insatiable the desire will become. Here's a challenge for ya. Find me one gay person who also claims to be abstinate. posted by stinkz |
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stinkz: Here's a challenge for ya. Find me one gay person who also claims to be abstinate. Priests. posted by knn |
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I'm not talking about someone who is keeping their homosexuality a secret. I mean, find me a person who is openly gay, yet claims to be abstinate. posted by stinkz |
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 stinkz: Homosexuality is obviously a choice. (out of the mouth of knn) proof? did you chose to be heterosexual? no? why not? cuz you grew up and saw these things called girls whom you found attractive. why is it different for a homosexual? stinkz: Due to lack of temperance, self-control, and overall good sense, sex itself is no longer exciting enough, so of course, people turn to perversions. so your saying the ultimate perversion is being gay? people are gay before they have sex so how can you say that it is no longer exciting enough so they act it out in another deviant way? what about the animal kingdom? the creatures apparently God made? they show homosexual tendances all the time check out homosexual animals ♣ posted by The ONEder Man |
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