»Is homosexuality immoral?«
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 Agent Zero: Why not? Being gay can bring whole families down and fills people with hatred enough to want to killl there husbands who turn gay right? see what i am trying to point at? What are you pointing at? That people can be fucking stupid? If so, then mission accomplished. posted by volonteshiva |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsIs homosexuality immoral? |
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 Agent Zero: Why not? Being gay can bring whole families down and fills people with hatred enough to want to killl there husbands who turn gay right? see what i am trying to point at? What are you talking about? Many things can bring families down. For example if the man voted for George W. Bush. posted by knn |
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 To fatpie... mainly. It is obvious that, at some point, we must throw off the idea of merely "human" Reason. In order that humans have any real knowledge, rational thought must be valid, and valid everywhere in the Universe. Now, if we must believe that our minds have a connection with Reality, when it comes to logical thought, we lose the prima facie case against the idea of objective values. The idea that values are "merely human" (aka completely subjective) is inconsistant with the amount of importance we place on our own values. That theory is not really an option. I'm going to start another thread soon, dealing with this very topic and related issues about God. It will be the first of a couple new threads, preparing for my post in the "what's rational about Christianity" thread. posted by stinkz |
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 Quote: For example if the man voted for George W. Bush. LOL that's partly true my brohter in law voted for him and my sister didn't vote but is a flaming left wing nutcase and she would of voted for kerry and they argued over him voting for bush for months posted by Agent Zero |
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 knn: If there are absolute morals then they would include something like
• Don't murder • Don't massmurder • Don't steal • Don't stop persons who do good • Support a fair governmental system • Don't lie around • Do good • Keep your body healthy and don't spread illnesses i'm glad knn could break down absolute truth to us after many years of everyone bickering about it 
thank you almight internet god knn! you have shown me the light! 
posted by The ONEder Man |
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 stinkz: Now, if we must believe that our minds have a connection with Reality, when it comes to logical thought, we lose the prima facie case against the idea of objective values. The idea that values are "merely human" (aka completely subjective) is inconsistant with the amount of importance we place on our own values. That theory is not really an option. Great so you think something can be beautiful even if there is no one there to appreciate it as such. For you beauty must be a science then? Are you really denying the view that beauty is in the eye of the beholder? You spoke of values. We think we have some definite knowledge of whether something is beautiful or not. If I find something beautiful, it IS beautiful. If you think aesthetic values and moral values are different then you must explain why. posted by fatpie42 |
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 The ONEder Man: i'm glad knn could break down absolute truth to us after many years of everyone bickering about it You are welcome. I have saved at least one soul 
posted by knn |
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 Of course it's not immoral  posted by bluewolf |
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 bluewolf: Of course it's not immoral Are transsexuals (man2female) who like boys more immoral than transsexuals (man2female) who like girls? posted by knn |
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No? edit: why would they be immoral? You're all odd. It's a sexual preference, big deal. One which I'm not sure is choice. posted by bluewolf |
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 bluewolf: You're all odd. It's a sexual preference, big deal. Hey, we're not all odd. Lots of us feel that sexual preference is no big deal. posted by Tiefling |
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I don't understand why people feel that homosexuality is immoral, even if it's a choice. I took an ethics class in college, the point of which was to build a moral code with no preassumptions about the existence of god. I think it's clear to everyone, everywhere, why murder would be immoral even if there were no god. But why would homosexuality be considered immoral, if there were no god? I believe that homosexuality is a choice, and that there's nothing immoral about it. posted by Tiefling |
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 Tiefling: I don't understand why people feel that homosexuality is immoral, even if it's a choice. Maybe because it's a perverted choice. Maybe because it's a hidden effort to make heterosexuality laughable. Maybe because it's a hidden effort to undermine the foundation of society (= families)? Maybe because it's a hidden effort to disrupt und invalidate the wonderful normality of heterosexuality. Maybe because homosexuality comes (more often than heterosexuality) along with other practices that could be considered "perversions" (scatophilia, pedophilia, love for stinking socks, behaving like a woman...) However, if you assume that it is a hidden effort, then maybe mental illnesses (or even handicaps) are such perversions, too. posted by knn |
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Tiefling: I believe that homosexuality is a choice, and that there's nothing immoral about it. This belief doesn't come from the morality of humanity, but from a particular, partial morality of a specific textbook. Please tell me why I should trust this book over humanity. posted by stinkz |
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stinkz: Tiefling: I believe that homosexuality is a choice, and that there's nothing immoral about it. This belief doesn't come from the morality of humanity, but from a particular, partial morality of a specific textbook. Please tell me why I should trust this book over humanity. Eh... what book? I presume you are saying that homosexuality is wrong? Where is there a singular BOOK which says that it is right? Most people who think that homosexuality is not immoral, think this because of their own reasoning, not because of any book. posted by fatpie42 |
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