»The Second Gulf War was a British war, too«
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 In answer to Liberal Slayers suggestion that the Iraq war has nothing to do with my country: Quite frankly my country was involved in that war too. Ever heard of Tony Blair? Oh of course not! People who watch FOX news have never heard anything important about the real world beyond America's shores. At least my country's army wasn't dropping bombs on its own soldiers! It seems this was happening so often that, at one point, it happened as British reporters were going along with American troops. One moment they were discussing the war, the next moment a bomb was falling on them and they were panicking like hell - they were lucky to be alive! Turned out that it was the same plane that the American troop was in contact with and it didn't bomb in the place they told it to. Oh and of course there is another event you won't know about it because it would probably be 'unpatriotic' to report. That is the point when the Americans fired at the hotel room in which all the reporters were staying at, claiming that there had been gunshots fired from there. Bush is a loser, the American army is full of losers, Tony Blair is a loser for even being involved in this stupid war and you are a loser for trusting these lying scheming politicians. End of story. posted by fatpie42 |
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| in-my-opinion.orgPoliticsBush, Kerry, IraqThe Second Gulf War was a British war, too |
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 Quote: In answer to Liberal Slayers suggestion that the Iraq war has nothing to do with my country The Gulf war is also called World War 3 by some because so many countries were involved. posted by knn |
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knn: Quote: In answer to Liberal Slayers suggestion that the Iraq war has nothing to do with my country The Gulf war is also called World War 3 by some because so many countries were involved. Which Gulf War are you talking about. If you are talking about the second one like I was then... since when does three countries count as 'so many'? America Britain and Iraq are the only countries who were involved. Certainly many have decided to help rebuild Iraq afterwards and good on them. But few countries were prepared to be involved in the initial invasion. posted by fatpie42 |
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Quote: Which Gulf War are you talking about. If you are talking about the second one like I was then... since when does three countries count as 'so many'? No, the first one. Where the UN was involved, too. posted by knn |
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Ok, first of all, no one calls the gulf war world war 3, give it up. Fatpie, I can't remember what exactly I said (because the thread was broken up  ) but i think you misunderstood. I know British help us in wars. I appreciate you guys for that. We also help you in wars and that's why you're speaking english still.
You're trying to make America seem incompetant at war. We'll what you've just said proves you listen to liberal media. Not only are those really small compared to what happens over there every day. (Close to a bomb? panicking? It's war, no one cares) but everyone will not be perfect at war all the time. Is it ok with you that people make mistakes? Good. Secondly you automatically jump to conclusions like the fact that there might have been an Iraqi in the hotel firing. Seems like their strategy. Fire from a place that has lots of civilians so they can't fire back. Other examples include hiding military bases in hospitals and schools. You are the loser for not investigating the truth. posted by liberal slayer |
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 one thing that did annoy me in the second gulf war about the americans was this as fatpie said...the americans did bomb their own troops on several occasions and virtually nothing was said...yet when an SAS team of 4 was attacked by about 80 iraqis during the opening stages of the war...they had to abandon their heavy weapons and trek about 200 miles across the desert to safety...the iraqis found and used the anti aircraft missle to shoot down a black hawk helicopter and suddenly the americans want full investigations into why the iraqis were able to get the weapon and kicked up a major fuss about it it is this kind of stuff that annoys me about the american military but to call all the american troops "losers" is just not right and what it even worse is i can see another vietnam in the sense that when the troops return in large number from iraq...the anti war brigade will be there to throw bags of human shit at them...something which these brave soldiers(some as young as 17 years old) don't deserve posted by the anomaly |
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 liberal slayer: Ok, first of all, no one calls the gulf war world war 3, give it up. 
Absolutely, I'd not heard this before but the suggestion is ridiculous - where is this from? liberal slayer: that's why you're speaking english still. Like it or not, this statement is not popular in the UK. While Americans like to remind us of the help they gave us in WWII - and don't get me wrong we appreciate it - we also remember the years before you joined in, when US policy made life very difficult for us. This seems to be missing from many US recollections of the time. So forgive us if we don't hold a parade. What is perhaps more shocking is that the outcome may not have been as many would expect. At the time of WWII, Britain had a German King. 
Germany had already made attempts to negotiate with Britain and given the situation we were in, the idea was certainly being considered by the British Government. The thinking was along the lines of; "We're fucked, we can either be taken over by force, or negotiate some kind of truce". No, I don't like the suggestion either, but that doesn't change what happened. posted by Marl64 |
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Anomaly, there are much more good that happens than bad as far as us interests go. Proportionally, extremely little of it is reported. In Iraq right now, none of the good stuff is being reported. Marl, I'm not saying that you guys are nobodies. You've been the only one faithful enough to stand up with us a lot of times. I appreciate you guys. It's just that right now, all i hear about from england is bitching about the war. The left media makes all you guys sound left as well and it pisses people off here. posted by liberal slayer |
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that is a major problem with the media no successes are reported...some small examples of troops giving chunks of their pay to the iraqi people but nothing of the fact that there are now 40% more iraqis living in houses with running water and electricity than before the war there needs to be the balance...but unfortunately this doesnt concur with left wing medias political interests posted by the anomaly |
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liberal slayer: Close to a bomb? panicking? It's war, no one cares. Normally the bombs dropped on you aren't the ones you just deployed. This is just one example of the many fuck-ups the American army made. The Americans kill more of our troops than they kill Iraqis. It's horrible. Anomaly -I don't know what news you were watching. I saw tons of victories reported. It was funny when the defence minister for Iraq was claiming that we were losing when you could see the place falling into ruins behind him and tanks just across the river... hehe! posted by fatpie42 |
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but there is very little shown of the humanitarian effort that is being put in by many troops under extreme circumstances none of the school rebuilding and hospital rebuilding os shown posted by the anomaly |
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 the media plays a big role in the life of the world. and its sad to see that it was a very successful war. may still be little schermishes but the overall thing is over. yes schools being rebuilt. better health care. better living gfor all. but the media only focuses on the negative stuff...like how many more people died and bombs being launched and crap like that. Quote: The Americans kill more of our troops than they kill Iraqis. It's horrible. This statement is untrue. People make mistakes but this is so untrue. there were a few misshaps sure but that happens in every war. posted by Agent Zero |
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how the troops were getting along with the local people. The British troops gave sweets to the Iraqi children and then couldn't get rid of them. It was a very clever little icebreaker and it seems that it helped the British troops to be seen as liberators rather than oppressors. posted by fatpie42 |
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Quote: The British troops gave sweets to the Iraqi children and then couldn't get rid of them Before the war started I read in a book that USAnians are terrible on the ground. They are good in the air (throwing bombs) but are bad in making friends on the grounds. Well, the torture scandal seems to be the proof. posted by knn |
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a handful of troops slap a few prisoners around once again another generalisation that's drags the name of decent troops through the mud posted by the anomaly |
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