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knn: HIV is very hard to spread Let's consider this stat from the US There are currently approx 500'000 HIV infected persons in the US. Let's
and you get approx ONLY 1400 people (= potential sex partners of yours) in the WHOLE US. That makes it approx 5 candidates (or even less) in your area. You'd have to sleep 100x with each of them to get infected. In other words: Influenca is far more likely to kill you. posted by knn |
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| in-my-opinion.orgTechnology, Computers, Science, InternetScience (Assorted topics)Homosexuality spreads AIDS, heterosexuality not really |
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knn: HIV is transmitted every 500th time of unprotected sex with a HIV positive. In other words: On the average you need to have unprotected sex 500 times Just check these homosex statistics out One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year. The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime
... Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film By the way, the first AIDS cases (in the 80ies) were guys who had 300+ sex partners per month. Keep up, let gay cancer eat you! posted by knn |
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So this has probably already been said, but I didn't want to read through the whole thread. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that AIDs is not spread more by homosexual sex than heterosexual sex. The only reason it is so prevalent in the gay community is that there is a greater concentration of promiscuous people in the gay community than in the heterosexual one. Nocturnal - lesbian sex isn't exactly very likely to transmit disease because there's no male part. And if there is, it's fake. So it's less likely to transmit fluids. Whereas gay sex is anal sex. Definitely some fluid transmission there. posted by Nianza |
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Nianza: I could be wrong, but it seems to me that AIDs is not spread more by homosexual sex than heterosexual sex. The only reason it is so prevalent in the gay community is that there is a greater concentration of promiscuous people in the gay community than in the heterosexual one. Who says they are more promiscuous...? One of the main reasons is that homosexuals are afraid of people finding out their true sexuality. This leads to fear of asking for advice in sexual related matters, fear of buying condoms in case someone sees them, etc. etc., as suggested by this site: Homosexuality, HIV/AIDS and young gay men
Homosexual men remain the group at the greatest risk of getting infected with HIV in the UK. Throughout the 1990s, there were modest falls in the number of new diagnoses among homosexual men, except in 1996 when multi-antiretroviral therapy first became widely available and the advantages of early diagnoses became clearer. Estimation of current HIV incidence rate among men who have sex with men is difficult. The often long period of time between the infection and diagnoses can make predicting the incidence rates hard. Also, some of the new infections will have occurred abroad either in the course of travel o before moving to abroad. The great majority of new infections in this risk group will, however, have been acquired in the UK, and there are indications of rises in behaviours associated with increased risk among men who have sex between men in the UK. As the end of September 2004, 32,412 men who have sex with men have been diagnosed with HIV. On the basis of these figures gay men have been criticised for being promiscuous and taking unnecessary sexual risks. However, evidence suggests that on the contrary gay men have been very sensitive and responsive in regard to safer sex promotion and condoms are widely and properly used. The high rate of infection reflects a complex relationship between a lack of information in the early days of the epidemic, patterns of sexual activity, the risk of infection and prevalence of the virus among gay men. The primary mode of transmission of HIV between men is through anal sex without a condom (sometimes called "bare back sex"). For young gay men there may be particular problems with trying to practice safer sex. Some young gay men may not feel secure about obtaining or using extra strong condoms for anal sex because if they are seen purchasing or in possession of them it might be interpreted as a disclosure of gay identity. They also rarely have the benefit of sex education in school in which sexual behaviour between same-sex partners is discussed. This can make it very hard for young gay men to feel comfortable about negotiating safer sex. posted by nocturnal_anonymous |
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Homosexuality is also a more effective to spread AIDS because homosexuals engage more often in anal sex than heterosexuals. Due to the microchaps in the intestines infections can occur more often and weaken the intenstines. If a partner has AIDS then the "weakened intestines" get infected faster. posted by knn |
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Nianza: I could be wrong, but it seems to me that AIDs is not spread more by homosexual sex than heterosexual sex. The only reason it is so prevalent in the gay community is that there is a greater concentration of promiscuous people in the gay community than in the heterosexual one. So it _IS_ spread more by homosexuals. posted by knn |
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knn: then on the average you would not get infected because the HIV amount in the ejaculate is practically 0. Even in AIDS patients in the last stage (= they are nearly dead) nearly no HI virusses can be found. posted by knn |
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ralph_angelus: And btw, what is wrong with homosexuality is that it spreads AIDs faster. Some people would say this is ok because all those 'sick fags' will die out. But couple that with bisexuality, and it becomes a threat to the human race. Already is, if you look at the statistics. If AIDS is really your concern, then you should be promoting abstinence, not condemning homosexuality. No, this is just a transparent attempt for you to use facts and figures instead of irrational homophobia to support your point. /dismiss posted by Tiefling |
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knn: Nianza: I could be wrong, but it seems to me that AIDs is not spread more by homosexual sex than heterosexual sex. The only reason it is so prevalent in the gay community is that there is a greater concentration of promiscuous people in the gay community than in the heterosexual one. So it _IS_ spread more by homosexuals. Oh. I think what I meant to say was that it's not the act of gay sex that is just inherently more likely to transmit a disease, it's the fact that gay people tend to be more comfortable with having more partners than straight. Promiscuity and AIDs tend to be found together. Nocturnal, I didn't mean an offense to gay people, but many of them do tend to be promiscuous. I'm not judging anyone. posted by Nianza |
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Tiefling: No, this is just a transparent attempt for you to use facts and figures instead of irrational homophobia to support your point. I think that the statistics pretty much support the point that AIDS (in the west, disregard Africa for now) is a typical HOMOSEXUAL disease, spread BY homosexuals, spread TO homosexuals, BECAUSE of their TYPE of sex (anal) and BECAUSE being promiscuous is TYPICALLY homosexual. posted by knn |
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Your argument boils down to one thing: knn: being promiscuous Practicing safe sex or abstaining from sex is the best way to control AIDS. It doesn't matter your orientation. posted by Tiefling |
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Take two people, any gender, any orientation, who we know with 100% certainty are disease free. They can have sex any which way they want and neither one is going to get a disease. So take ten people, any gender, any orientation, who we know with 100% certainty are disease free. It doesn't matter whose dick ends up where. Hell, they could have a mass orgy on the kitchen table if they wanted. And none of them will get a disease! The problem is that as any one of those ten people, you do NOT know with certainty that the other nine are disease free. Any one of those people might not even know if he himself has a disease. And the higher the number of people, the higher the chance that someone has a disease. So once again. The type of sex is irrelevant, if your concern is defeating AIDS. What's relevant is the amount of partners. posted by Tiefling |
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Tiefling: Your argument boils down to one thing: knn: being promiscuous No, wrong. So far it's 3 points
But there is another thing:
Probably drugs are the most important factor, since it causes also AIDS in the other 2 groups: Hemophiliacs (who can take a lot of medical drugs) and drug addicts. These homosexuals that have 200+ sex partners per month use drugs. They use anal sphincter relaxants and pep up drugs. As you may know even smoking can speed up AIDS. The drugs they are taking (Poppers ♣ for example) are much more dangerous. posted by knn |
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Tiefling: Practicing safe sex or abstaining from sex is the best way to control AIDS. It doesn't matter your orientation. So? Still the statement is true: Homosexuality spreads AIDS. Of course, in an ideal world (where every homosexual uses condoms or abstains from sex) that wouldn't be the case. But the fact remains, that homosexuals _are_ the major cause of spreading AIDS, because of their ways of sexual behaviour and drug use. But they spread AIDS AMONGST each other, so they don't really threaten heterosexuals. EVEN IF a heterosexual would get infected then he wouldn't spread it too much, since heterosecuals aren't that active. posted by knn |
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Sex spreads AIDS! It doesn't matter what kind. Saying that homosexuality spreads AIDS is like claiming that people from India spread syphilis. That's a true statement too, after all. posted by Tiefling |
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