»Homosexuality spreads AIDS, heterosexuality not really«
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 Tiefling: Ok, you believe a heterosexual man can't get AIDS? Prove it to me. Moreover this thread is about "Who spreads AIDS" not "Who gets AIDS". And the topic title is still correct: "Homosexuality spreads AIDS, heterosexuality not really" Gays ARE more promiscous than non-gays. Moreover you completely seem to blend out that these "heterosexual woman" who have AIDS are in many cases drug using prostitutes. Yes, "drugged prostitutes" fall under "heterosexuals without any injection drug use". I don't know why it's so hard to believe that AIDS is in 99.9% NOT spread by normal heterosexual sex. I know the gay propaganda and the condom industry try to push another message. But the statistics speak another language. posted by knn |
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volonteshiva: Plus from all the stats shown, the majority of women w/ HIV get it from straight sex. It seems more than it is, since a lot of these woman are drugged prostitutes, as I write in my post above. posted by knn |
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 knn: Tiefling, I am not gonna repeat the gazillionth time what I have written in all of my posts above. YES, a heterosexual man CAN get AIDS, although it's unlikely. This is NOT what you've said in every post. knn: I was flabbergasted when I noticed how vividly gays try to convince everyone that ANYONE can get AIDS. knn: I think there is NOT A SINGLE DOCUMENTED CASE where a heterosexual has spread AIDS to another heterosexual person who then spreads it to another. knn: volonteshiva: knn: AIDS _IS_ a typical gay illness. But saying that heterosexuals never get HIV and hardly spread HIV is ridiculous. Of course heterosexuals can get AIDS: • Heterosexual junkies • heterosexual blood transfusion receivers • heterosexual children (from the mother) Anyway. If you admit that heterosexuals can indeed spread HIV from A -> B -> C through heterosexual sex, then I retract, with apologies, all my statements about you being ridiculous/ignorant. posted by Tiefling |
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That is a simple course in statistics: AIDS by race: Whites 300'000+ Blacks 300'000+ US population by race: Whites: 70% Blacks: 12% Expected AIDS numbers for Blacks: 100'000 (= 12% of AIDS cases) Real number: 300'000 Conclusion: Blacks are 3x more likely to get AIDS than Whites. This site tell even greater discrepancies: African American men are almost 9x more likely to be infected with AIDS than white men.
... African American women are 23x more likely to be infected with AIDS than white women. Is that Darwinism, too? It's a statistical fact that AIDS is basically a GAY and a BLACK and MALE illness (maybe that's the reason for AIDS in AFRICA). Has nothing to do with Darwin or political correctness. It has something to do with "Reading the stats how they are, and not what the condom industry commercials say". posted by knn |
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 knn: volonteshiva: Plus from all the stats shown, the majority of women w/ HIV get it from straight sex. It seems more than it is, since a lot of these woman are drugged prostitutes, as I write in my post above. And what makes you say that drugged prostitutes constitue a large % of women w/ HIV? I won't doubt that they are a %, but how high of a % are they? posted by volonteshiva |
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Tiefling: Anyway. If you admit that heterosexuals can indeed spread HIV from A -> B -> C through heterosexual sex, Yes, this is theoretically possible. Although unlikely. And as I have stated: I think there is not a single documented case where this happened. The rule still applies: Stay away from drugs and from gays and you will not get AIDS, even if you abstain from condoms. ((Of course you will die of another sexually transmitted diseases, but that's another thing.)) Female prostitutes often have 200-300 sexual partners per year and are therefore assumed to have much higher rates of exposure to HIV and AIDS than the vast majority of heterosexuals. Indeed, many AIDS researchers initially assumed that female prostitutes would be the vectors (or means of transmission) of HIV and AIDS to the heterosexual community. After all, a single HIV-infected intravenous drug user or bisexual man could infect one female prostitute, who in turn could infect dozens or perhaps even hundreds of non-drug using heterosexual men. These men could, in turn, infect their other sexual partners, and an explosion of HIV and AIDS could occur among people without any obvious risk for AIDS. Paradoxically, no heterosexual epidemic has occurred, and no evidence of female prostitutes transmitting HIV or AIDS into the heterosexual community exists for any Western nation. Reports by prominent researchers in the United States, Britain, and Germany have all concluded that acquisition of HIV by men from female prostitutes is almost always drug related. In fact, sexual acquisition of HIV and AIDS among female prostitutes themselves is almost unknown in the absence of concomitant intravenous drug use. posted by knn |
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knn: Moreover this thread is about "Who spreads AIDS" not "Who gets AIDS". And the topic title is still correct: "Homosexuality spreads AIDS, heterosexuality not really" Oh, I'd love to see you discuss who spreads AIDS without discussing who contracts AIDS. Good luck with that. knn: Gays ARE more promiscous than non-gays. Like I said in my first post: Tiefling: If AIDS is really your concern, then you should be promoting abstinence, not condemning homosexuality. knn: I don't know why it's so hard to believe that AIDS is in 99.9% NOT spread by normal heterosexual sex. Because the stats don't support your belief!  knn: I know the gay propaganda and the condom industry try to push another message. But the statistics speak another language. Oh, right, it's a big conspiracy to... make people use condoms! Because we know, of course, that nobody would bother with condoms if it weren't for AIDS. Or, it's a big conspiracy by homosexuals to make heterosexuals... cautious about contracting HIV! posted by Tiefling |
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knn: The rule still applies: Stay away from drugs and from gays and you will not get AIDS, even if you abstain from condoms. If you admit that heterosexuals can transmit HIV through heterosexual sex, then your rule fails. posted by Tiefling |
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Tiefling: Because the stats don't support your belief!
avert.org... No, your stats subsum hemophiliacs and all kinds of people under "heterosexual contacts". Your statistic is valueless for your statements. Tiefling: Oh, right, it's a big conspiracy to... make people use condoms! Has nothing to do with conspiracy. Just with PR to sell more condoms. Selling condoms "because of AIDS" is a joke. Selling condoms because of STDs is OK. posted by knn |
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knn: No, your stats subsum hemophiliacs and all kinds of people under "heterosexual contacts". Your statistic is valueless for your statements. Proof? Funny, I give you stats, you say, they're lies. knn: Has nothing to do with conspiracy. Just with PR to sell more condoms. Selling condoms "because of AIDS" is a joke. rofl. Right. Condom companies are claiming that AIDS can be transmitted from heterosexual to heterosexual to sell condoms. You heard it first from KNN when the scandal comes out. posted by Tiefling |
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Please show me a statistics where AIDS is spread (A->B->C) by heterosex and not only gotten by heterosex (A->B). Moreover I am kind of proven by the situation world wide: In the 80ies scientists assumed that AIDS will kill off half of the US. Whole cities would become ghost cities. None of it happened. In other words: After 25 years of AIDS the shere non-existence of AIDS outside of "risk groups" proves that AIDS doens't get spread into the healthy, non-druggie & heterosexual society groups. Moreover I am proven by the fact that there are practically no cases of AIDS amongst heterosexual porn actors. posted by knn |
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Tiefling: Proof?
Funny, I give you stats, you say, they're lies. My god, Tiefling. I NEVER EVER STATED THEY ARE LIES. I said they are valueless for your claims, because they put every heterosexual hemophiliac and heterosexual drug user into the "heterosexual group". Tiefling: Condom companies are claiming that AIDS can be transmitted from heterosexual to heterosexual to sell condoms. Of course they claim that. In bearly every "Protect yourself from AIDS with condoms" commercial. It's not a scandal, but it's a pepped-up statistic. posted by knn |
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knn: Please show me a statistics where AIDS is spread (A->B->C) by heterosex and not only gotten by heterosex (A->B). I don't need to. You already admitted this. knn: Tiefling: Anyway. If you admit that heterosexuals can indeed spread HIV from A -> B -> C through heterosexual sex, Yes, this is theoretically possible. Although unlikely. knn: Moreover I am kind of proven by the situation world wide:
In the 80ies scientists assumed that AIDS will kill off half of the US. Whole cities would become ghost cities. None of it happened. That's no proof. (1) Someone said something stupid. (2) Therefore, everything they said is false. (3) Thus, anyone who agrees with anything they said is wrong. By that, I can say that anyone who agrees with you on anything is wrong, knn. posted by Tiefling |
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knn: I said they are valueless for your claims, because they put every heterosexual hemophiliac and heterosexual drug user into the "heterosexual group". Proof? none. posted by Tiefling |
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Tiefling: knn: Please show me a statistics where AIDS is spread (A->B->C) by heterosex and not only gotten by heterosex (A->B). I don't need to. You already admitted this. You don't need to show me a statistic because I admitted something? What? OK, let's start again: Show me the statistics that show how much AIDS is spread by heterosex. heteroA -> heteroB -> heteroC As far as I know there is not a single case worldwide known where this happened. Or actually even better and easier: non-drugged+healthy+hetero A -> non-drugged+healthy+hetero B I know of no such stat. BUT SUCH STAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO PROVE YOUR CLAIMS. Yes, it CAN THEORETICALLY happen. But show me the stats first. Instead we have statements like these: William Darrow, CDC AIDS epidemiology official, cites no proven cases of HIV transmission from prostitutes to clients. posted by knn |
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