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Umm, this poll might need a bit of tweaking, but I gotta goto work. posted by hungarian kid |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsIs Paganism becoming more prominent than Christianity? |
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I was raised in the faith of Catholicism. I have since realized Paganism. Any faith that is secular is a money making business. Somebody's "Bread aznd Butter" posted by Guy |
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-Yes, and it's a good thing -Yes, and it's a bad thing -No, and it's a good thing -No, and it's a bad thing -Don't know/Don't care I rule. posted by nocturnal_anonymous |
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nocturnal_anonymous: -Yes, and it's a good thing
-Yes, and it's a bad thing -No, and it's a good thing -No, and it's a bad thing Heh I made the Yes and No seperate from the Good Thing/ Bad Thing to minimise poll options incase I added more options, and it looks like Knn's already taken the liberty of putting in the 'I don't know / can't decide'. posted by hungarian kid |
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I don't understand the 'and it's a good thing' and 'and it's a bad thing' because I don't know whether you're talking about 'Yes, and it's a good thing' or 'No, and it's a good thing.' See what I mean? posted by nocturnal_anonymous |
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also, what do you mean by paganism? there are lots of different pagan religions out there, and then again, there are lots of different religions that are not christianity but are still not pagan... so, i guess i want to know what you think you are talking about and then hear some of your opinions on whether the effects are good or bad... or whatever posted by wake_walker |
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Your poll scares me. So, I'm posting instead. Paganism is nowhere near becoming more prominent than xianity. There is nowhere in the country you can go and expect that the local religion is, say, witchcraft. But there are many, many places where the local religion is some denomination of xianity. Paganism has several blows against it, however, that make it difficult for it to ever be considered prominent. For one, as wake inadvertently pointed out, there is not one "religion of the pagans." For another, paganism is quite informal. posted by Tiefling |
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Tiefling: Paganism has several blows against it, however, that make it difficult for it to ever be considered prominent. For one, as wake inadvertently pointed out, there is not one "religion of the pagans." For another, paganism is quite informal. Paganism is the same thing as Wicca right? You will never find out how many Wiccans there are since Wiccans have made a habit of making themselves scarce after centuries of persecution. They aren't exactly an evangelistic religion though, so they are unlikely to particularly prominent. I appear to be the only person on this forum to have voted who doesn't think Wicca has suddenly had an upsurge in popularity and overtaken Christianity! posted by fatpie42 |
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look up paganism on wikipedia and then come back, fatpie. sorry, i am not trying to be mean or anything, but we can't discuss this until we all know what we are talking about. wikipedia should clear up alot of the misunderstandings you might have, and then we can talk about whether or not there are more pagans than christians. and then, as it appears to be your goal, we can talk about the personal character of both religious sects. read the wachowski's Doc Frankenstein series that just came out. great comic. great religious and political commentary on the present day US. wake posted by wake_walker |
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Pagan
1. One who is not a Christian, Muslim, or Jew, especially a worshiper of a polytheistic religion. 2. One who has no religion. 3. A non-Christian. 4. A hedonist. 5. A Neo-Pagan. So the question could mean: 1. Most people do not belong to an Abrahamic faith. (Not sure about that one) 2. There are more people who do not believe in a religion than believe in Christianity. (I don't agree. Most people these days have some form of religious belief. Atheism is not particularly widespread) 3. Most people are not Christian (well duh!) 4. (Not even touching this one. Only religious extremists say "The world is full of people turning to selfish sinful hedonism!") 5. Hmmm "neo-pagan" *shrugs*. Let's check out wikipedia: In another sense, as used by modern practitioners, paganism is a polytheistic, panentheistic or pantheistic often nature-based religious practice. This includes reconstructed religions such as Hellenismos, Ásatrú as well as more recently founded religions such as Wicca, and these are normally categorised as "Neopaganism". Although Neopagans often refer to themselves simply as "Pagan", for purposes of clarity this article will focus on the ancient religion, while Neopaganism is discussed in its own article. This was what I presumed the question was asking. I do not think these small pagan groups are more prominent than Christianity. They hardly have any members! More info on paganism here: Could you people correct your absurd votes now? posted by fatpie42 |
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fatpie42: This was what I presumed the question was asking. I thought it was about the definitions 1-3 fatpie42: I do not think these small pagan groups are more prominent than Christianity. They hardly have any members! Really? I thought it was growing pretty fast The fastest growing religion (in terms of percentage) is Wicca -- a Neopagan religion that is sometimes referred to as Witchcraft. Numbers of adherents went from 8,000 in 1990 to 134,000 in 2001. Their numbers of adherents are doubling about every 30 months posted by knn |
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fatpie42: Atheism is not particularly widespread I don't know if it's just the city I live in (known by the residents as "The Bubble" Teachers aren't supposed to talk about their own religious/political stances during class, but my science teacher keeps making jokes that make fun of Christianity, Bush, and so on, and it drives me nuts to keep my temper down when the majority of the class is laughing. My science teacher was brought up in a Christian private school, and lived in Colorado and Texas for a while, so she talks about those days as if she was the only one who could think for herself and everyone around her was religious, conservative, and DUMB. As for the students, well, most of my friends at school are atheistic (they either have no religion or believe in an atheistic one, like Buddhism). I even heard one of my classmates say, "I go to church every week, but I don't even believe in all that crap" as if she was being 'rebellious' or 'cool' by not conforming to the religion she was brought up in. So in my opinion, my conclusion is that the greatest growth in atheism is in the youth (teens or young adults)...particularly in California. posted by nocturnal_anonymous |
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nocturnal_anonymous: my science teacher keeps making jokes that make fun of Christianity, Bush, and so on, and it drives me nuts to keep my temper down when the majority of the class is laughing. That doesn't mean anything. All that means is that your teacher is not a strong Christian. It doesn't tell you whether or he is Christian or not and it certainly does not tell you what his religious beliefs are. nocturnal_anonymous: As for the students, well, most of my friends at school are atheistic (they either have no religion or believe in an atheistic one, like Buddhism). I don't count Buddhism as atheistic. The original buddha did not openly deny the existence of god(s), in fact he is believed to have been confronted by a jealous god called 'maya'. Are you entirely certain that your schoolfriends are atheists? Are you sure they are not agnostic? Agnostics believe that it is not possible (for them at least) to know whether God exists or not. As a result they feel that their judgments either way are irrelevant. When asked the question "is there a God?" atheists will go "I doubt it", but agnostics will go "maybe" and shrug. nocturnal_anonymous: I even heard one of my classmates say, "I go to church every week, but I don't even believe in all that crap" as if she was being 'rebellious' or 'cool' by not conforming to the religion she was brought up in. She is obviously expected to go to Church and finds it to be a bore. I wonder whether her parents know what she thinks about Christianity. You can't encourage someone to feel passionate about a religion, but you can indoctrinate them into a religion. It seems likely that your friend is just going through a period of teenage rebellion, but when their older I doubt they'll be prepared to deny God entirely - just in case. posted by fatpie42 |
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nocturnal_anonymous: but my science teacher keeps making jokes that make fun of Christianity, Bush, and so on u talkin high school right? so ms. hanes? whoa. never knew. you never told me.. posted by sangu |
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nocturnal_anonymous: I even heard one of my classmates say, "I go to church every week, but I don't even believe in all that crap" as if she was being 'rebellious' or 'cool' by not conforming to the religion she was brought up in. Maybe some day they will go to Church and DENY it. Because the anti-Christian pressure will be so high. posted by knn |
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