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»Joseph Ratzinger will be Pope Benedict XVI«







VATICAN CITY (CNN) -- Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany has been selected by the Roman Catholic church as the new pope.

Cardinal Jorge Arturo Medina Estevez of Chile made the announcement to a cheering crowd in St. Peter's Square.

Ratzinger, who took the name Benedict XVI, appeared on the balcony of the Vatican Basilica to greet the people and deliver his first papal blessing.

"Dear brothers and sisters, after the great Pope John Paul II, the cardinals have elected me -- a simple, humble worker in the vineyard of the Lord," The Associated Press quoted him as saying.

Once the archbishop of Munich, Germany, and for many years prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, Ratzinger, 78, was one of the most powerful men in the Vatican and is widely acknowledged as a leading theologian.

Ratzinger served for 20 years as John Paul II's chief theological adviser.

As a young priest he was on the progressive side of theological debates but shifted to the right after the student revolutions of 1968.

In the Vatican, he has been the driving force behind crackdowns on liberation theology, religious pluralism, challenges to traditional moral teachings on issues such as homosexuality, and dissent on such issues as women's ordination.

The dean of the College of Cardinals since November 2002, he was elevated to cardinal by Pope Paul VI in June 1977.

White smoke, bells
Earlier, white smoke rose from a Sistine Chapel chimney and bells rang Tuesday, signaling the selection of a new pope.

The crowd clapped and waved flags as the smoke began to billow over Vatican City about 5:50 p.m. (11:50 a.m. ET).

Suspense built as the throng waited for the symbolic ringing of bells, at which point the crowd broke into a roar of jubilation.

The conclave of 115 cardinals had voted three times previously -- once Monday night and twice Tuesday morning -- before selecting the new pope.

The cardinals' morning ballots were burned at about 11:50 a.m. (5:50 a.m. EDT).

Chemicals are added to the ballots to turn the smoke white or black.

Pope John Paul II, who died April 2 at age 84, had decreed that white smoke be accompanied by the ringing of bells, to avoid a repeat of the confusion after his election in 1978.

Ratzinger needed two-thirds of the votes to be selected.

Speculation rife
There has been a great deal of speculation about who may be chosen to succeed John Paul II, who died April 2 at the age of 84, but cardinals have been mum.

Some taking part in the conclave said they are looking for a leader who presents a hopeful vision, who can "generate some dynamism and some optimism within Catholicism," CNN Vatican analyst John Allen said.

The first clues to the process of finding a successor were sought during the homily or sermon delivered by Ratzinger at Monday's public Mass.

"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the church, is often labeled today as a fundamentalism," Ratzinger said.

Allen said Ratzinger delivered a "very blunt" message for the church to "stay true to itself."

John Paul was widely credited with extending the reach of the papacy. He spoke more than a dozen languages and set an unprecedented pattern of pastoral travel, drawing huge crowds all over the world.

He was also strictly traditional on issues of sexuality and the role of women in the church, which won him support among some Catholics but alienated others. Similar disagreement exists over the next pontiff's stances on issues such as birth control, stem cell research and the ordination of female priests.



posted by Echelon
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whosa whatsit?



Echelon:
Ratzinger, who took the name Benedict XVI,

i was asking people at work including my boss that is catholic why they change their name and no one really knew...anyone here know why?
Echelon:
Ratzinger, 78

i also told them at work they better start holding the next elections right away this guy is so old Aaah, is there anything better than to post here and to drink something


posted by The ONEder Man
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In Nomine...


[A pope] can choose a Latinised form of his Christian name, a saint's name or the name of an earlier Pope.

He may also want to pick a name that would attribute a virtue to him, such as Pius (pious), Innocent or Clement (merciful).

Some allow personal considerations to guide them, such as Pope John XXII, who chose his name to honour the memory of his father.

However, Peter is a name seen as out of bounds out of respect to the first ever Pope, Saint Peter, who was a disciple of Jesus.




posted by sleuthslayer
  

I know...



...but I have to leave work right now if I want to get to class on time! Aaah, is there anything better than to post here and to drink something

I'll tell you tommorrow, k? Thumb Up

posted by Echelon
  



your holding me in suspence! and this guy is old, soon we will having another one, i give him 5 to 7 years. and the whole pope thing is weird to me

posted by Agent Zero
  

The name must be international



The ONEder Man:
i also told them at work they better start holding the next elections right away this guy is so old

This is the very reason for electing an old pope. If you are too young (like John Paul II) you might rule too long. Ratzinger wanted to step down already several times due to health issues.
The ONEder Man:
i was asking people at work including my boss that is catholic why they change their name and no one really knew...anyone here know why?

Well, Peter's name was also not Peter.
The British have long joked that John Paul II should be succeeded by George Ringo I as the ultimate tribute to the Beatles. Sadly, there's fat chance of this highly original idea coming to fruition. In the history of the papacy, only one pope has taken office with a name shared by no pope before him: Pope Lando, who had a very brief stint at the helm of the Catholic Church from 913-914. Generally, popes are conservative in choosing their names - and the names they adopt from previous papacies often reflect the traditions the new pope will adopt. Karol Wojtyla, or John Paul II, used his name as an homage to John Paul I, the "laughing pope," who only served 33 days in office. Odds suggest the new pope will have one of these common papal names: John (which has appeared 23 times), Gregory (16), Benedict (15), Clement (14), Leo (13), Innocent (13), Pius (12), Boniface (9), Alexander (8) and Paul (6).




posted by knn

the new pope



he was a hitler youth...

posted by the anomaly
  

Hitler Youth means nothing



the anomaly:
he was a hitler youth...

Sounds worse than it is. Usually having been in the Hitler youth means nothing, since you were obliged to join.


posted by knn
  

Hitler Youth means nothing



the anomaly:
he was a hitler youth...

Sounds worse than it is. Usually having been in the Hitler youth means nothing, since you were obliged to join.

You can safely assume that millions of Germans still living were in the the Hitler Youth, which was basically a Sports+Education organization with a "fancy" (fancy in their times) name.


posted by knn
  

How they call him



His real world name is Ratzinger.

Now that he is pope, they call him Papa Ratzi White laugh

posted by knn
  

Re: Hitler Youth means nothing


knn:
the anomaly:
he was a hitler youth...

Sounds worse than it is. Usually having been in the Hitler youth means nothing, since you were obliged to join.

And he was a teen.


posted by tozy
  



it's not like, in joining the Hitler youth, he had a choice in the matter. Well, let me take that back...he did have a choice. Rebel and die. I don't know of too many of us that would make a different choice than he did if we were presented w/the same scenario.

posted by GP
  

He HAD to JOIN



GP:
it's not like, in joining the Hitler youth, he had a choice in the matter.

Well, his biographer says otherwise:
The son of a rural Bavarian police officer, Ratzinger was six when Hitler came to power in 1933. His father, also called Joseph, was an anti-Nazi whose attempts to rein in Hitler’s Brown Shirts forced the family to move home several times.

In 1937 Ratzinger’s father retired and the family moved to Traunstein, a staunchly Catholic town in Bavaria close to the Führer’s mountain retreat in Berchtesgaden. He joined the Hitler Youth aged 14, shortly after membership was made compulsory in 1941.

He quickly won a dispensation on account of his training at a seminary. “Ratzinger was only briefly a member of the Hitler Youth and not an enthusiastic one,” concluded John Allen, his biographer.




posted by knn
  



Here's the REAL reason:

Many years ago, the elected pope's real name was "Mercury". He disliked his name and thought that it wouldn't be appropriate for the Catholic church to have a pope named after a pagan roman god, so he changed it to John. After that, it became tradition.

On another note, knn quoted a source that stated that there have been 23 John's in the papacy and it's incorrect. Although the last pope to be known as John was John XXIII, there was no John XX. And therefore there have only been 22 Johns.

posted by Echelon
  

Re: How they call him



knn:
His real world name is Ratzinger.

Now that he is pope, they call him Papa Ratzi White laugh

that's a zinger! HAHA good one knn! White laugh


posted by Agent Zero
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