»North-Korea could atombomb USA with long-range missiles«
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 The chief of the DIA (The Defense Intelligence Agency) has suspected that the USA may come under atomic bomb attack from North Korea. The Defense Intelligence Agency chief says North Korea is able to arm a missile with a nuclear weapon, but hasn't said whether it has done so or if such a missile could reach the United States.
North Korea is believed to have made at least one nuclear weapon, according to public intelligence estimates. But combining that weapon with the Taepo Dong 2 into a nuclear missile is a greater technical challenge, defense officials said. posted by knn |
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| in-my-opinion.orgPoliticsBush, Kerry, IraqNorth-Korea could atombomb USA with long-range missiles |
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 Uh-oh... The words are getting tougher: U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney called North Korean leader Kim Jong Il "one of the world's most irresponsible leaders" in an interview with CNN on Monday.
In reponse, North Korea said Cheney "is hated as the most cruel monster and blood-thirsty beast" 
posted by knn |
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 knn: "is hated as the most cruel monster and blood-thirsty beast" its true...look *note the attached picture is not doctored badly using ms paint...at all...not one bit...honest guv* [CLICK HERE TO VIEW THIS PICTURE] posted by the anomaly |
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The Japanese government believes North Korea may attack Japan if Japan's military provides rearguard support for U.S. forces in the event of a crisis on the Korean Peninsula, the Asahi Shimbun daily said. The government regards missile attacks and strikes on nuclear power plants as possibilities and is also bracing for possible biological attacks, it said without quoting specific sources.
The government will urge local authorities to reflect such thinking in their crisis management plans to be drawn up by the end of next March, the newspaper said. The measures include increasing stockpiles of smallpox vaccine to cover Japan's population of some 127 million and improving the ability of police and military to detect chemical attacks and decontaminate affected areas, Asahi said. The government also sees the need to bolster defenses against North Korea's ballistic missiles, which would hit Japan around seven minutes after they were launched, and against which Japan now has no effective countermeasures, Asahi said. The government seeks to improve its capability to detect missile launches and to warn citizens, and is also stressing the need for a missile defense system. Japan decided in December 2003 to buy a U.S.-made missile shield, which is expected to be partially deployed from 2007. 1998 North-Korea shot a missile that flew above Japan to demonstrate its capacities 
posted by knn |
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 Based on current form then, the U.S. has no alternative but to launch a pre-emptive strike and call it "self defence" 
posted by Marl64 |
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 Marl64: Based on current form then, the U.S. has no alternative but to launch a pre-emptive strike and call it "self defence" Ah, but see, current US form is to pick on small, weak countries. US intelligence probably made it very clear that Iraq would be easy to conquer, which is why the US launched its campaign (military and propaganda) against Iraq. Meanwhile, North Korea has one of the more impressive armies in the world; and if this information is true about nuclear weapons, that's a big factor as well. So current form for the US is to tell North Korea all about the virtues of peace, while simultaneously crushing small countries like Iraq. posted by Tiefling |
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In cases like this you have to ask yourself: what does the dictator want? In Saddam's case, I can give it to you in three words: No more Israel. In Kim's case, I can give it to you in three as well: United communist Korea What good would it do Kim to fire a nuke at even Korea, much less the US or Japan? In all three cases, there would be no more North Korea to worry about if he did. Do you guys realize this? The Americans would flatten his country with nukes and then wait a few thousand years before repopulating it with "friendlies". That's not necessarily a bad thing: you wouldn't hear these cries of outrage from Europe if Kim were close enough to hit them with a nuke. Britain and France would do the same thing, or wait for the Americans to. More likely: Kim sells or threatens to sell nukes to terror groups like al Qaeda. Then he avoids an invasion or attack but still can make demands. posted by holy_of_holies |
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Quote: In Saddam's case, I can give it to you in three words: No more Israel. This statement is completely unjustifiable. Why do you think Saddam wanted to destroy Israel? posted by Tiefling |
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Why do I think that or why did he want to? posted by holy_of_holies |
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Then do make sure you flag the previous post as off-topic too, knn... Alternatively, please state which parts of that post I'm allowed to respond to. posted by Tiefling |
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Tiefling: Then do make sure you flag the previous post as off-topic too, knn Although that post deviates from the theme a bit, it's still about North Korea bombing USA. I marked holy_of_holies' other post as offtopic. That should be enough for a new user. posted by knn |
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Quote: In Kim's case, I can give it to you in three as well: United communist Korea Proof? Quote: What good would it do Kim to fire a nuke at even Korea, much less the US or Japan? Nuclear missiles are a great deterrant. "the cold war" ♣ Quote: Do you guys realize this? The Americans would flatten his country with nukes If the US tried to pull the same stunt on North Korea that they did in Iraq, North Korea could now potentially retaliate with nuclear weapons. Of course, North Korea would lose, but there would be a large loss of life here too. Quote: More likely: Kim sells or threatens to sell nukes to terror groups like al Qaeda. Then he avoids an invasion or attack but still can make demands. Oh, right, anyone with nuclear weapons is busy selling them to terrorists. posted by Tiefling |
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Tiefling: Nuclear missiles are a great deterrant. Which is why development of a defence against them is deemed illegal by the international community. Development of Nuclear arms is allowed on the basis of a final deterant, if a country can defend itself against them, they offer little to deter that country from adopting an agressive stance. The cold war was about maintaining the balance of power, it was simply a nuclear stand-off with neither side wanting to push too far since they were unable to defend against an all out strike by the other. If either side got too cocky, it was game over for all of us - and both sides knew that. Sure it got scary at times, but ultimately it prevented things getting reeeeeally messy. While the U.S. may see the fall of the U.S.S.R. as a great victory for freedom and democracy, etc. etc. in fact it made the world much more dangerous as the balance no longer exists. And to be fair, if you look to the motives of the leaders of countries you don't like you should also ask the same of your own leaders. posted by Marl64 |
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Marl64: And to be fair, if you look to the motives of the leaders of countries you don't like you should also ask the same of your own leaders. Very, very true. 
posted by Tiefling |
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Tiefling: Quote: In Kim's case, I can give it to you in three as well: United communist Korea Proof? The Korean War. It's still legally ongoing, you know. Tiefling: Quote: What good would it do Kim to fire a nuke at even Korea, much less the US or Japan? Nuclear missiles are a great deterrant. "the cold war" ♣ I have heard of this Cold War of which you speak...isn't that the one that resulted in wars in both Korea and Vietnam, with great loss of American and other lives there - even though the allies of North Korea and North Vietnam were nuclear powers? Tiefling: Quote: Do you guys realize this? The Americans would flatten his country with nukes If the US tried to pull the same stunt on North Korea that they did in Iraq, North Korea could now potentially retaliate with nuclear weapons. Of course, North Korea would lose, but there would be a large loss of life here too. That's if they could get their few missiles here in the first place before the Americans bombed them out. JFK could have done this in Cuba but for the Soviets, and Clinton almost attacked North Korea to halt its nuclear ambitions. Now that the Soviets are gone and only one belligerent communist regime - North Korea - exists in the world, there would be nothing to stop an American preemptive strike. Kim would be lucky if he could even build silos without them being spotted by spy sattelites and destroyed. Tiefling: Quote: More likely: Kim sells or threatens to sell nukes to terror groups like al Qaeda. Then he avoids an invasion or attack but still can make demands. Oh, right, anyone with nuclear weapons is busy selling them to terrorists. Yes, in the case of North Korea, or they have threatened to. posted by holy_of_holies |
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