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Was Jesus Communist?

   
I don't know
40%
 40%  [ 2 ]
He was none of the above
40%
 40%  [ 2 ]
Yes, he was a Communist
20%
 20%  [ 1 ]
No, he was Capitalist
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
No, he was a Socialist
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Number of users, who voted: 5
Number of counted votes: 5




Please explain your opinion...

posted by Pawnatron
  

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This poll makes no sense. What is a capitalist 2000 years ago? There was no stock market nor banks.

There was no cummunism either, nor socialism.

The same way you could ask "Was Jesus an animal rights advocate?" or "Was Jesus a psychoanalyst?"

Besides this should be a multichoice poll, because you can be a communist AND a socialist. Or a socialist AND a capitalist

Moreover where is the option "None of the -isms"? Thumb Up

posted by knn



According to the bible, Jesus was in favor of loving your fellow man and giving to the needy. He was against the hoarding of wealth. So yeah, I'd say that he would prefer communism over capitalism.

posted by Tiefling
  



Tiefling:
According to the bible, Jesus was in favor of loving your fellow man and giving to the needy. He was against the hoarding of wealth.

Where does it say so? It doesn't.

Otherwise there wouldn't be any Christian millionairs nowadays...
Tiefling:
So yeah, I'd say that he would prefer communism over capitalism.

But communism is not the opposite of capitalism. Being poor doesn't make you a communist.


posted by knn
  

Capitolism = Feudalism



knn:
Tiefling:
According to the bible, Jesus was in favor of loving your fellow man and giving to the needy. He was against the hoarding of wealth.

Where does it say so? It doesn't.

Otherwise there wouldn't be any Christian millionairs nowadays...
Tiefling:
So yeah, I'd say that he would prefer communism over capitalism.

But communism is not the opposite of capitalism. Being poor doesn't make you a communist.

communism rules capitolism is just a trumped up version of the feudal system

The only reason everyone hates communism is because most communist leaders followed their own set of crazy rules.


posted by Kupov
  



knn:
But communism is not the opposite of capitalism.

Then what is?
knn:
Being poor doesn't make you a communist.

I didn't say that it does. But being rich at the expense of others certainly doesn't make you a communist.


posted by Tiefling
  



Tiefling:
But being rich at the expense of others certainly doesn't make you a communist.

Why not? The communist party of Russia and Kim Jong Il are good examples, that being rich at the expense of others can be very communistic.

Having a society with money, is also not capitalistic. Even in Russia they had money.

Making money with money _IS_ capitalistic (e.g. living on interest, buying/selling shares, trading currencies).

In fact capitalism and communism is the same thing with different facettes: It's "Making others work for yourself".

The opposite of capitalism would be "A world without money and products", which is not communism, but anarchy.

The opposite of communism would be "A world where everybody works for himself without caring for the other", which is not capitalism, but AGAIN anarchy.

In fact anarchy is the opposite of practically any organized state of government/society.


posted by knn
  



Please also consider, that part of the ideology of communism is the fight against religion.

Chruches have been destroyed and priests prosecuted in communistic countries.

Thus Jesus is as far away from communism as it could be.

A statement like "Jesus is a communist" is a slap in the face of every suppressed Christian, for example in China (where Catholicism is forbidden). "Jesus was a Jehovah's Witness" or "Jesus would support Benny Hinn" makes way more sense.

posted by knn
  



And I am about to close this poll if Pawnatron doesn't contribute.

I can also start a thread:
Was Jesus
(o) Gay
(o) Pedophile
(o) Pervert
(o) I don't know

without contributing any background info...

posted by knn
  

What Jesus really was...



The thing that comes closest to what Jesus was, is... monarchist.

Actually, since he alone will rule heaven and earth, he was a theocratist.

There is a clear structure of "heaven organisation" (God->Angels->Satan...) so it's clearly _not communism_.

posted by knn
  



Tiefling, you still didn't answer where it says in the bible "He was against the hoarding of wealth."

posted by knn
  

Jesus was a Leninist



I wanted also to add that "Jesus was a communist" or "Jesus was a socialist" is similar to the nonsense statememt "Jesus was a Stalinist" or "Jesus was a Marxist" or "Jesus would support Mao Tse Dung".

Complete nonsense.

posted by knn
  

this sucks...



Well I'm not asking if he "was" a communist...

I'm only asking if his ideas match up the ideas of either Capitalism or Communism...

God damn this...

Ok fine, delete it. It's just a poll...

I'm almost as fed up as Agent Zero gets...but I won't get frustrated here...

But this is stupid...
it's just how you interpret what Jesus was teaching other people...

if he lived today would he be a capitalist or a communist? if he was either...

But if this such a horrible idea that be my guest and delete it...

it's a simple question...I have lots of debates at school wether Jesus was a communist or a Capitalist...and sure we don't reach a conclusion because well he was neither...but it's fun to debate about it...and since i do't have that much time because I have to study for exams I didn't perfect the poll...

I'ts seem that in most cases you do that by adding options to other peoples polls...

But yeah that fine, delete it and be moron...

posted by Pawnatron
  The Chief of this forum will call me a genius, move me to Moscow, and give me a
million bucks hard currency



Pawnatron:
it's a simple question...I have lots of debates at school wether Jesus was a communist or a Capitalist...and sure we don't reach a conclusion because well he was neither...

And where is the poll option "Neither"?
Pawnatron:
Well I'm not asking if he "was" a communist...

I'm only asking if his ideas match up the ideas of either Capitalism or Communism...

Wrong. You ask "Was Jesus a Communist?" in the title, in the poll question AND in the poll option.
Pawnatron:
it's a simple question...

Was Jesus
(o) a feminist
(o) a animal rights advocate
(o) a Manga fan
(o) a supporter of the World Bank
(o) I don't know
is also a simple, yet nonsense poll. These things did not exist then, thus it's nonsense. If you want to ask "Would Jesus be a communist nowadays" then this is a completely different thing.


posted by knn
  



Aren't you going to delete the poll?

(o) a feminist
why is that a stupid question? It's just something you can interpret...

If jesus says in the bible "Woman should be equal to man" then yes he might be considered a feminist...


(o) Supporter of the world bank
This however is not something you can interpret...

But I did hear you say you where going to delete it...

posted by Pawnatron
  



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