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Ok, snuff films. a snuff film is a film in which a person is murdered in real life on purpose, they are usually pornographic in nature and the person killed is usually a woman, they are filmed then distributed underground for entertainment purposes. Do these things really exist? posted by allone |
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who knows but even the thought churns my stomach that someone gets sexually arroused by murder or rape of an individual...8mm disturned me alot posted by Agent Zero |
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well, yeah its totally disgusting. but they arent all pornographic, they are just associated with being such. my girlfriends sociology class has taught her that these films exist and that they are something that needs to stopped. (yet another thing that she has become a crusader for) i have done a little bit of research...although it has all been online, and have found no examples of any of these films but a lot of places that call them "urban legends" and have even found where the name "snuff" comes from and so on. Early in February of 1976, following rumours on the possible existence of 'Snuff' films, and reports circulating that one such film had been smuggled into the United States from South America, a one-sheet poster was displayed at the Time Square area of New York, outside the National Theatre. The picture was for a motion picture titled 'Snuff'1. The artwork was that of a bloodied, cut-up photograph of a naked woman and it bore the legend, "The film that could only be made in South America…where life is CHEAP!" It also promised "The Bloodiest thing that ever happened in front of a camera!" a simple google search will bring you a ton of places to go to and read...she refuses to believe them. of all the websites i emailed her to explain them away, she passed them off as being untrue. saying that they do exist, they are just made by the mafia and kept underground, and if anyone reports on them they will be kidnapped and put into one of these films. she says that in china a girl was kidnapped from her family and put in one of these films and her body was returned to the family one limb at a time. i found nothing about that. i tell her that no law enforcement agency has ever found any of these films...she says that the mafia either pays them off or that they are soo underground that they are very hard to find. hmm... so she thinks that there is a conspiracy with these movies...and there must be if none have ever been found. posted by allone |
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still just the thought...sick...sick, that's why i didnty like saw..it was almost like a snuff film posted by Agent Zero |
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allone: saying that they do exist, they are just made by the mafia and kept underground, and if anyone reports on them they will be kidnapped and put into one of these films. allone: she says that in china a girl was kidnapped from her family and put in one of these films and her body was returned to the family one limb at a time. i found nothing about that. allone: i tell her that no law enforcement agency has ever found any of these films...she says that the mafia either pays them off or that they are soo underground that they are very hard to find. hmm... All of those sound like big time urban legends to me. One piece of advice for your gf: Don't believe everything you see on TV, read on a newspaper or the internet, or what your teacher says. Instead, search for the truth yourself. posted by Echelon |
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i totally agree with you on that. she has a very hard time trying to find the "other side" to a lot of different things. she learns things in class and thinks that's all there is to it (because "obviously" if there were more to it she would have learned it in class, right? her counter to me telling her not to believe everything that she is told and everything that she reads..."well, youre telling me, should i not believe you? and how did you find out the information that you are telling me?"...i read it...touche! i was just wondering if anyone here has any thoughts on snuff films, if they exist, myth, any news stories that i have missed while doing my search that anyone might have read or saw...and so on posted by allone |
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Urban myth, just like that crap story about a guy waking up in a bathtub full of ice posted by Crossfade |
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allone: they are just made by the mafia and kept underground, and if anyone reports on them they will be kidnapped and put into one of these films. This is, without a doubt, one of the most hilarious things I've read in a while. allone, tell your lady thanks for giving my laugh for today. posted by GP |
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oh, i tell her that daily...most of the time more than once a day. posted by allone |
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I have seen horrific pictures of terrible things done to women. If those were real or not does not matter, the fact is that they were taken for pleasure and not as part of a criminal investigation. When someone takes pictures, video etc of this sort of torture/murder for sexual pleasure, it is classified as ilegal. I remember that from some media class i had a few years back. I don't know what the punishment would be, even if it was staged. Hey, if there's a law for it, it either has to be real and out there or we have a bunch of pervs writing the law... posted by Tinki |
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Tinki: I have seen horrific pictures of terrible things done to women. i have seen pictures of terrible things done to men and women. doesnt have to be sexual in nature at all. (did you ever see the video of the american prisoner who got beheaded in iraq?...but there is a difference there, that film was not made to be distributed for entertainment/profit=not a "snuff" film) Tinki: If those were real or not does not matter, the fact is that they were taken for pleasure and not as part of a criminal investigation. When someone takes pictures, video etc of this sort of torture/murder for sexual pleasure, it is classified as ilegal. I remember that from some media class i had a few years back. I don't know what the punishment would be, even if it was staged. so, youre saying that if someone takes a photo or films someone having some torture done to them (even if the model agrees to it and the photo is stagged/fake) and they use it for some type of sexual pleasure, it is still illegal? why arent websites that host images and videos of (staged) torture being shut down? (oh wait, i forgot, the whole conspiracy thing) --- warning! this link is to a video trailer for a movie that has some very graphic and distrubing images in it theres a website that offers videos of staged torture/bdsm/whatever its called --- how come that site hasn't been shut down but every single child pornography site that has ever been made and found has? but wait, what if its not done for sexual pleasure? does that make it legal? what if it is made without the intent of sexual pleasure, but someone finds it sexually pleasing? is it then considered illegal? can you control what people find arousing? or are we to just make laws against what you can and cannot find sexually pleasing? Tinki: Hey, if there's a law for it, it either has to be real and out there or we have a bunch of pervs writing the law... can you show us the law that states, "filming a woman being tortured, even if it is fake, is illegal when the film/photo is being used in a sexual way" and no, just because there is a law against something doesnt mean that it has to have happened or be real, it can be just a precaution in case it ever does happen. if its real, can we see some evidence or proof that they exist? posted by allone |
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Foamy the squirrel and snuff films i would call it the snuff film channel posted by Kupov |
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was talking about these on campus the other day when a girl was trying to convince me that they exist...i advised her to go to snopes.com Claim: Films are routinely made for distribution in which participants are murdered on camera.
Status: False. Origins: All the fretting about it aside, not so much as one snuff film has been found. Time and again, what is originally decried in the press as a film of a murder turns out, upon further investigation, to be a fake. Police on three continents routinely investigate films brought to them, and so far this has always been their verdict. No snuff films. Some clever fakes, yes. But no real product. (Al Goldstein, publisher of Screw magazine, has a standing offer of $1 million for anyone who can come up with a commercially sold snuff film. That offer has been in place for years. No one has yet laid claim to it.) It's not enough to fear there might be one snuff film out there; the belief runs strong that a large creation and distribution network is in operation, with children and young people routinely kidnapped then killed while the cameras roll to meet demand and the films of same circulated through this underground to connoisseurs of the genre. ... The First "Snuff" Film: In 1976 the movie Snuff caused a tremendous stir when the word on the street got out that an actual film depicting the on-screen murder of an actress had been smuggled into the States from South America, and this was it. Widely-believed hype aside, the film's origin was much more mundane. Snuff was a product of Monarch Releasing Corporation and had been filmed in Argentina in 1971 as Slaughter, a film about bad girls, motorcycles and bad guys. Slaughter was so ineptly made as to be unreleasable. Five years later, the head of Monarch breathed new life into this terrible piece by splicing on five minutes of additional footage, releasing it as Snuff, and spreading the word this was an actual snuff film. People were horrified, sickened, titillated, outraged . . . and they went to see it, shelling out the ticket price without argument. Faces of Death: Possibly the most famous of all films pointed to as "snuff" is the Faces Of Death series, a sequence of six videos made up of footage of accidents, suicides, autopsies, and executions, liberally peppered with outright fakes scenes. Most of the actual death scenes shown in these films are of the post-death variety. The multiple camera angles give away the acted-out nature of many of the most compelling scenes. Guinea Pig: Early in 1991, a film of Asian origin rumored to contain actual snuff footage came into the possession of actor Charlie Sheen. Sheen turned it over to the FBI, quite convinced he'd stumbled onto the real thing, and heartily sickened by what he'd seen. The film in question was Flower of Flesh and Blood, part of a series of films collectively known as "Guinea Pig." Some of the "Guinea Pig" films have at least temporarily fooled the authorities, fueling news stories about the unearthing of snuff films. It's no wonder either; the special effects are very cleverly executed. Flower of Flesh and Blood is the episode which stirs much of the controversy. It features a samurai torturing, then dismembering a captive girl until she eventually expires in front of the cameras. It wasn't real. According to The San Francisco Chronicle: The FBI confiscated Sheen's tape and proceeded to investigate all involved, including Charles Balun, an early distributor of the film. Balun fiercely asserted that the film was a hoax and was merely a series of startling special effects. Propitiously, the Japanese took this time to release ''Guinea Pig Two: The Making of Guinea Pig One,'' revealing the technical sleight of hand in all its bone-cracking glory. After viewing this film, the FBI backed off and dropped the investigation. In a stunning display of bad taste, this film was shown on San Francisco's public access channel in October 1996. (but then again, the law enforcment agencies that investigated these were probably paid off by the mafia... there is much more on the website, i just cited a small portion, but the snopes site has pretty muched sumed it all up in one place...that way you wont have to do a lot of searching. posted by allone |
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although I have never personally seen any, i know there are many unsolved murders that remain suspicious. I have seen an underground porno movie that my sick ex-boyfriend showed me that depicted people doing all sorts of horrible and depraved things to animals that was absolutely repulsive and depreved. I figure that if there are films like that, it is plausible that there are also films depicting torture and murder. As far as porno is concerned, it is very well known that the mafia is a major player in the industry. They would certainly have the means and capability of making and selectively distributing it. posted by tutu |
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Oooh snuff! I don't see why it wouldn't exsist. I mean look at all the f'd up shit that goes on in this world.. pretty gnarly. People are sick.. there were two serial killers in Cali that would take people to the farm where they had this room with a bed and there they would film people they took being raped tortured and murderd but it is not considered Snuff because they weren't doing it for financial gain.. only for their sick pleasure. But it pretty much was a snuff film. In my opinion .. posted by Evilia |
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