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Mike Tyson was sprawled on the canvas, his head stuck oddly between the first and second ropes. Kevin McBride had shoved him down and now he sat there, trying to contemplate whether to get up.
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Tyson sat on his stool and told Cortez he had enough. Enough for this fight, enough for a tortured career that began with greatness only to spiral out of control and finally end in desperation and sadness.

He said he would fight no more. The sport that allowed him to earn more than $300 million had passed him by, and it was time for Tyson to admit as much.

“This is it,” Tyson said. “It’s finished.”
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He was just a shell of that fighter, much as he had been since losing to Buster Douglas in what was one of boxing’s greatest upsets in 1990. Tyson hadn’t beaten anyone of significance since stopping Razor Ruddock the next year, yet fans bought tickets to his fights thinking they would see the young lion who thought he would never lose.
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Tyson was becoming desperate, just as he was in the third round of his 1997 fight with Evander Holyfield when he bit Holyfield’s ears. He searched for a way to win, a way to end the fight.

Early in the sixth round, he grabbed McBride’s arm and tried to break it. He hit him with a low blow and, finally, he intentionally rammed his bald head against the head of his bigger opponent, drawing both blood and a two-point penalty from referee Joe Cortez.

“I was desperate,” Tyson said. “I wanted to win.”

By the end of the round, Tyson was not just desperate. He was a beaten fighter, sitting on the canvas and trying to figure out where it had all gone wrong.

“I didn’t want to get up. I was tired,” Tyson said.

Tyson did get up, walking back to his corner and sitting on his stool. Cortez came by and Tyson told him he wasn’t going to fight anymore.

Just like that, it was over.

“I’m not going to lie to myself,” Tyson said. “I’m not going to embarrass this sport any more.”
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He talked about doing missionary work in Africa to help heal his life, but Tyson has said a lot of wild things before.




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posted by knn

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finally he realises that he is a spent force...everyone else has known it since he got his head kicked in from Evander Holyfield 8 years ago

its quite sad really...personally i still think that at his peak , he couls have taken any heavyweight fighter in history

i guess next he'll be bringing out a book and doing the ol' conference circuit White laugh

posted by the anomaly
  



actually maybe i'll challenge him to a fight...i'm getting up to boxing standard physique Silly and stupid, that's how I feelWhite laugh

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posted by the anomaly
  



the anomaly:
its quite sad really...personally i still think that at his peak , he couls have taken any heavyweight fighter in history

I don't think it's about the physique. I think it's mentally...


posted by knn
  



knn:
the anomaly:
its quite sad really...personally i still think that at his peak , he couls have taken any heavyweight fighter in history

I don't think it's about the physique. I think it's mentally...

i'm Scottish...i'll fight anybody...let him spill my pint and he's a dead man White laugh


posted by the anomaly
  man is only half himself
the other half is a bright thing
he tumbles on by luck or grace
for man is ever a blind thing



I think Tyson's been done since the Buster Douglas loss. Here's why: Tyson dominance was predicated on his mentality that, even though he was technically soft, he was unbeatable. Guys would step in the ring thinking they'd go toe-to-toe w/him and punch-for-punch...very bad idea. Once he was beaten by a technically superior boxer, Tyson knew that guys would start exploiting that weakness...which they did.

posted by GP
  



GP:
Once he was beaten by a technically superior boxer, Tyson knew that guys would start exploiting that weakness...which they did.

As I write at IMO → Mike Tyson goes KO... No more money to pay debts#9142
• Tyson won't hit an alpha animal
• Tyson's opponents are stronger than in the 80ies (especially: They can take much more punches now)
• Tyson didn't go beyond the 3rd round in the 80ies



posted by knn
  



GP:
Once he was beaten by a technically superior boxer,

Would you expand on what technical strategies you are referring to?


posted by volonteshiva
  



the reason tyson gets beaten now is he himsrlf tries to box...boxing was never his strength..he was a powerhouse...he made it his mission to destroy opponents early because he had neither the technical ability or the stamina to last any length of time

when he came out of jail and started to try and fight as a boxer rather than a maniac then he started failing quite badly... i think the fact that he is on temper control medication doesn't help his chances either as he used to rely on his temper to defeat his opponents

as for the boxers of now being better...i disagree... the kiltchko's are about the best of the day and they are nothing compared to previous boxers

the last great champ was lennox lewis but his style was boring to watch

posted by the anomaly
  



Fantastic job, anomaly! Thumb Up

You just summed up everything I was going to say. Yes, oh yes.. keep going

posted by GP
  



the anomaly:
i think the fact that he is on temper control medication

Whaaaa? I didn't know that.


Psychiatrist made him a mashed potato! What? When? Where? Why?


posted by knn
  



the anomaly:
as for the boxers of now being better...i disagree... the kiltchko's are about the best of the day and they are nothing compared to previous boxers

I disagree. I saw a compilation of the opponents of Tyson. Except maybe Michael Spinks they were all much worse then boxers nowadays.

Just check


Nearly all the boxers he fought (and won) against have been loosing in their last 5 fights (before enountering Tyson). And the boxers who DID beat him are boxers like Lennox Lewis and Evander Hollyfield. In other words: He won against the baddies and lost against the goodies. But the eighties were a strange time, making heros of people who didn't deserve it.

I still think Vitali Klitschko is the best right now and not any worse then previous boxers. But that's another topic which I don't want to start because I need to see Klitschko fighting some more fights...


posted by knn
  



another reason tyson isnt as effective as a technical boxer is quite simply his size...for a heavyweight he is rather short at 5'11...consider that he walloped frank bruno who stands at

as for your statement about him at his best and the strength of his opposition and there records

bruno had lost 1 in 6

seldon hadn't lost any in 6 and neither had buster mathis or mcneely

razor ruddock had lost only 1 and that was against tyson

not to mention that these were AFTER he lost to douglas

before that he had beaten larry holmes, michael spinks, tony tucker, trevor berbick

as for the future of boxing...a russian jew by the name of "roman greenwood" (i think that's his name) is coming through the ranks and he is one to watch

posted by the anomaly
  



the anomaly:
bruno had lost 1 in 6

And I watched Bruno's fight against Tyson. Bruno was so freakin' afraid, that you could see feces coming out of his pants, so to speak.
the anomaly:
seldon hadn't lost any in 6 and neither had buster mathis or mcneely.

razor ruddock had lost only 1 and that was against tyson
not to mention that these were AFTER he lost to douglas

Seldon who? Razor who? Mathis who? These were "80ies heros", sorry.


posted by knn
  



razor ruddock...you don't even know who he is...he was WBO heavyweight champion at one point in his career...buster mathis was also USBA heavy weight champ for 3 years and never lost a fight between 91 and 95

and you put down Bruno who was also at one point in his career WBC,WBA and IBF champion...known in boxing as "the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world"...granted he never actually successfully defended the title and lost it at the first attempt...against mike tyson

and that boxer i was going on about

its greenberg



he's gonna be champ...believe me

posted by the anomaly
  



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