»The light at the end of the tunnel when you die«
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 a "tunnel" is just a man based idea. nowhere in the bible does it say when you die you go through a white tunnel. its kinda stupid. posted by Agent Zero |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsThe light at the end of the tunnel when you die |
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 Quote: nowhere in the bible does it say when you die you go through a white tunnel. its kinda stupid. The tunnel thing is something many dying persons see. I think about 30% or so see a tunnel and a light at the end of it. posted by knn |
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yah but you cant prove that what they saw was real...and not a hullicination. prove it to me and i will believe you. go ahead prove to me that those 30% were not hullucinating... posted by Agent Zero |
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Quote: go ahead prove to me that those 30% were not hullucinating... You can prove it to yourself by... dying! posted by knn |
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 Agent Zero: yah but you cant prove that what they saw was real...and not a hullicination. prove it to me and I will believe you. go ahead prove to me that those 30% were not hullucinating... Only if you can prove the burning bush was not a Hallucination 
Besides, I'm sure they've explained the Tunnel of Light as your percieved vision as your senses start to shut down. In much the same way, people under gas (the anasthetic) often see the room (their normal vision) but as a distant image in a sea of blackness. A little freaky side story. When I was about six or seven I had gas at the dentist for a tooth out. While I was under, I had some serious visions - one was of a really colourful Apple tree with a snake curled around it's trunk - very biblical. There were also some strange animals of types I've never seen. Oh yea, and a tunnel of light. 
It turned out that I was under way too long, the dentist had been panicking because he couldn't wake me. But I don't think I died or anything. posted by Marl64 |
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Quote: But I don't think I died or anything. Actually noone really says that you have to die to know what happens after life. Dentist gasing sucks. Quote: Besides, I'm sure they've explained the Tunnel of Light as your percieved vision as your senses start to shut down. Yeah, it can be explained. But if you leave your body and can describe what happens during, say, a brain operation then that means that you yourself are a spirit separatable from the flesh. posted by knn |
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 Quote: Was the real miracle of his birth the fact that he was a golden haired, blue eyed, whiteboy? I'm pretty sure that Jesus didn't look like that... I remember somewhere in the Bible it said that he had hair of wool or something like that, and that sort of leads me into thinking about African American hair... I think he was probably a combo of all races' physical characteristics. Quote: that means that you yourself are a spirit separatable from the flesh i think that is true. another freaky story: my friend told me that her cousin had a liver problem and needed a transplant, and when he was being operated on, he momentarily "died," because his heart stopped beating. During that time, he said that he was almost like a spirit hovering over everyone, and that he could see his own body and everyone panicking down below. Later, when he was consious again, he told them (his family) this, and his family said that what he saw while he was unconsious really did happen.
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your subconscience is a weird thing its like lucid dreaming. being able to know your dreaming. its weird. posted by Agent Zero |
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 Regarding the bidstrup.com...... Quote: We now know that the vision of the tunnel is produced by the visual cortex being disconnected from sensory input, and beginning to shut down. posted by Tiefling |
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Quote: We now know that the vision of the tunnel is produced by the visual cortex being disconnected from sensory input That is just a theory that tries to explain it. The end concept of such theories is always that man is just an "animal body" Quote: What are widely regarded as evidence for the existence of a spiritual realm can easily be explained by the material, the mundane Beh Quote: Most of the brain can be shut down and these phenomena are still possible - with electrical activity so small it is not possible to measure it through external devices A hypothesis that tries to explain his theory. Double-Beh posted by knn |
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It's also just a theory that you're heading to heaven when you see "the light at the end of the tunnel." So which theory makes more sense? posted by Tiefling |
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Quote: It's also just a theory that you're heading to heaven when you see "the light at the end of the tunnel." So which theory makes more sense? Since when do religious explanation make sense? If "making sense" is the premise, logic will always win, and never eyes or heart. posted by knn |
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Quote: yah but you cant prove that what they saw was real...and not a hullicination There is no difference between reality and hallucination except that it's a hallucination if you are the only one who sees it. Since many describe the tunnel, it's therefore real. It cannot be the definition "It's not real because the doctor wasn't in the tunnel". That's too stupid. I also want to point out the inner descrepancy between the Bush loving Agent Zero, who believes that Bush didn't lie his way into war, and the doubting Agent Zero, demanding proofs for the tunnel. posted by knn |
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