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you two stop the bickering or feel the wrath of my wet fish

posted by the anomaly
  

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the anomaly:
you two stop the bickering or feel the wrath of my wet fish

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posted by GP
  



holy_of_holies:
[What is wrong is that you make historical pronouncements about American history (i.e. American involvement in WWII was too late to make a difference...)

Howz that a statement about YOUR history? It is statement about BRITISH history that the Americans came into the war EXTREMELY late. By the time the Americans came into the war Hitler was already fighting on two fronts (ie. he had started attacking Russia).
holy of holies:
Do you know what document Jefferson is most famous for having authored (hint:your country would have killed him for it)?

I have no idea what books he has written. As I already said, I have only heard him 'mentioned'.

What the hell is a God-doctor? Surely you already know about my interest in theology from all my posts about Nietzsche?
holy of holies:
However sometimes Wiki gets it wrong...usually when pressured by fanatics into promulgating invalid views... You whine like a mule.

Look mate, you are beginning to sound like Stinkz. Are you going to tell me what was undemocratic about the election I took part in earlier this year, or are you going to just call me names? If there was something undemocratic about it I would LOVE to know because I didn't want Blair elected myself (though I know plenty of people who did).


posted by fatpie42
  "The beauty of the Superman came to me as a shadow. What are the gods to me now!"



holy_of_holies:
Do you know what document Jefferson is most famous for having authored (hint:your country would have killed him for it)?

Yes
holy_of_holies:
However sometimes Wiki gets it wrong...usually when pressured by fanatics into promulgating invalid views.

Ah, that would explain this then
While Thomas Jefferson is popularly accredited with being the author of the Declaration, it is clear from the record that he was not its originator.


Very Happy


posted by Marl64
  


Marl64:
holy_of_holies:
Do you know what document Jefferson is most famous for having authored (hint:your country would have killed him for it)?

Yes
holy_of_holies:
However sometimes Wiki gets it wrong...usually when pressured by fanatics into promulgating invalid views.

Ah, that would explain this then
While Thomas Jefferson is popularly accredited with being the author of the Declaration, it is clear from the record that he was not its originator.


Very Happy

I think popular accreditation should count for something when one signs one's own death warrant, don't you Marl64? Or am I missing something here? You act as though the British court which would have tried Jefferson as a traitor would have said, "Oh wait...he didn't really write all of it..." and let him off...
Your crumpet-eating ancestors never did a damn thing to help the founders, especially Jefferson, who fought whole-heartedly any and all attempts to draw the US into Britain's sphere of influence...I inherit this role, and take it up wholeheartedly as Europe seeks to unite against the American empire once again...and the more cries of "imperialism!" you hear about American power, the more Europe and Britain marginalize themselves and turn into a breeding ground and fomentor of international intrigue and hatred...and a way station for terrorists coming into this country to sew discord...
PS Fatpie, Stinkz is a shitkicking, apathy-smashing American, and I am glad I sound like him.


posted by holy_of_holies
  


fatpie42:
holy_of_holies:
[What is wrong is that you make historical pronouncements about American history (i.e. American involvement in WWII was too late to make a difference...)

Howz that a statement about YOUR history? It is statement about BRITISH history that the Americans came into the war EXTREMELY late. By the time the Americans came into the war Hitler was already fighting on two fronts (ie. he had started attacking Russia).

Yes you may have a point. Britain lost WWII and would have lost it no matter what the Americans did because theirs was a stolen empire and a stolen preeminence...and you speak as though WWII happened in Europe alone...what about the Pacific, and the Feb 15,1942 surrender of British Singapore, arguably the blackest day in British military history...would you argue that the Russians and Europeans could have singlehandly defeated the Japanese empire while also fighting the Nazis? I guarantee you they don't teach you the Fall of Singapore in your history classes for the same reason they don't teach us the Battle of the Greasy Grass...it was a humiliation and a defeat of hubris!
The Battle of Singapore was a battle of the South-East Asian theatre of World War II, from February 7, 1942 – February 15, 1942. The fall of Singapore represented the largest surrender of British-led military personnel in history. About 80,000 Indian, Australian and British troops became prisoners of war, joining 50,000 taken in the Malayan campaign.




posted by holy_of_holies
  



holy_of_holies:
Stinkz is a shitkicking, apathy-smashing American, and I am glad I sound like him.

I'm afraid you are in the minority then...


posted by fatpie42
  

Also from Wikipedia


On June 11, 1776, a committee consisting of John Adams of Massachusetts, Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania, Thomas Jefferson of Virginia, Robert R. Livingston of New York, and Roger Sherman of Connecticut, was formed to draft a suitable declaration to frame this resolution. Jefferson did most of the writing, with input from the committee. His original draft included a denunciation of the slave trade, which was later edited out, as was a lengthy criticism of the British people and parliament.


Sounds like they should have left that last part in...


posted by holy_of_holies
  



LOL...FIFA now says we're better than England in "Football" too!



USA! USA!

White laugh

Personally, I usually think the FIFA rankings are BS...but hey, I'll take it. King for a day

posted by GP
  

That's easy



GP:
LOL...FIFA now says we're better than England in "Football" too!

Probably because your lot play it I learned something new, I guess

All our players seem to do is pose, get nicked for driving offences and commit thuggary with little risk of condemnation from a starstruck fandom.

Posey tossers, far too much money for far too little work Not again


posted by Marl64
  



holy_of_holies:
I think popular accreditation should count for something when one signs one's own death warrant, don't you Marl64? Or am I missing something here? You act as though the British court which would have tried Jefferson as a traitor would have said, "Oh wait...he didn't really write all of it..." and let him off...

I think all Marl64 was doing was pointing out that Wikipedia can be wrong. I got no connotation that he was acting 'as though the British court which would have tried Jefferson as a traitor' from his post.


posted by nocturnal_anonymous
  "NO CAPES!"



Stop it, both of you, can't you see your driving us apart? We helped you and what do we get? Nothing.

Now we can all solve this by admitting Canada and Austrailia are the best we are like twins with different climates.

posted by Kupov
  



Kupov:
Now we can all solve this by admitting Canada and Austrailia are the best we are like twins with different climates.

Lol! I like that Smile


posted by fatpie42
  


nocturnal_anonymous:
I think all Marl64 was doing was pointing out that Wikipedia can be wrong. I got no connotation that he was acting 'as though the British court which would have tried Jefferson as a traitor' from his post.

No that was me. I was saying, and I say again, the British court would have tried Jefferson as a traitor and probably executed him had the Revolutionary War been lost.


posted by holy_of_holies
  



holy_of_holies:
No that was me. I was saying, and I say again, the British court would have tried Jefferson as a traitor and probably executed him had the Revolutionary War been lost.

Sorry, I misread your post.

But I don't think Marl64 gave the tone of thinking the British court would have 'let off' Jefferson... he was just pointing out that Wikipedia could be wrong. I think.


posted by nocturnal_anonymous
  



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