»Paris snubs Cruise for being Scientologist«
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 Paris’ city hall has pledged not to make US actor Tom Cruise an honorary citizen because of his membership of the Church of Scientology.
In a debate late Monday, the Socialist-controlled municipal assembly approved a resolution "never to welcome the actor Tom Cruise, spokesman for Scientology and self-declared militant for this organisation." Last month on a promotional tour for his film War of the Worlds, the 43-year-old star chose the Eiffel Tower to propose to girlfriend Katie Holmes. He was also made an honorary citizen of the southern French city of Marseille. Like many other European governments, the French authorities view Scientology — founded in the United States in 1954 by science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard — as a dangerous cult. Cruise was described as a "sect-symbol" by a Socialist deputy. posted by hungarian kid |
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 I was thinking paris hilton, so I was like, "Who really cares what she thinks?"  posted by sangu |
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 IS this an American article? Is that the reason why they keep saying "socialist" all the way through. Look, I'm sure most of us hate socialists here, but surely this isn't really about socialism? Do remember that France is extremely secularist. They don't let children wear any kind of religious clothing or symbols into school e.g. muslim girls are not allowed to wear headscarves despite the importance they link to this tradition. I expect this reaction is more to do with their secularism than their socialism (and considering what I've heard about the acts of scientologists in America it sounds like a good thing) posted by fatpie42 |
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 fatpie42: Do remember that France is extremely secularist. They don't let children wear any kind of religious clothing or symbols into school e.g. muslim girls are not allowed to wear headscarves You are not allowed to wear crucifixes even (only UNDER your clothes), or any other signs of religion. Let me clarify: This is valid for pupils. For teachers ANYWAY. France is extremely secularist, up to a point where you can say that they are hostile towards anything except materialism. posted by knn |
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knn: Let me clarify: This is valid for pupils. For teachers ANYWAY. Does that mean it isn't valid for teachers? The way you've written it is a bit ambiguous... knn: France is extremely secularist, up to a point where you can say that they are hostile towards anything except materialism. What do you mean by 'materialism'? You do realise that, as with many European countries, there are a large number of Roman Catholics in France? Being religious and secularism are not mutually exclusive. It is worth noting, however, that Christianity does not require a certain style of dress to be worn at all times by children. I think there might have been more difficulty setting up a law that prevented preists from wearing their white collars in public for example. However, it also notable that in France there is a problem with Algerian extremists who are mostly muslim and so there was no doubt in anyone's mind that the law to secularise schools was intended to silence muslim fanatics anyway. posted by fatpie42 |
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 fatpie42: ...there was no doubt in anyone's mind that the law to secularise schools was intended to silence muslim fanatics anyway. I'm sure this was referred to by Cheery Bluur when she defended that Muslim Girl's right to wear a headscarf to school. The girl claimed the school was being predjudice in preventing her wearing something which to her was of religious significance. ...Dispite the fact that the school had a strict uniform dress code (which didn't include headscarves) when she applied to attend there. The dress code has now been relaxed in favour of religious tolerance. 
posted by Marl64 |
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Quote: Paris’ city hall has pledged not to make US actor Tom Cruise an honorary citizen because of his membership of the Church of Scientology. What? I'm not a scientologist, can I be an honorary citizen?
No Really, who gives a flying fart? Bill Gates was made an honorary Knight of the UK or something, so what? Do they get a big gold key or eat for free? I can't see what difference it makes to anything. Surprising though, the fondness the French have for short guys, thanks to Napolean
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fatpie42: Does that mean it isn't valid for teachers? The way you've written it is a bit ambiguous... No I mean that in other countries where there is a limitation of religious symbols, this is usually valid only of official personnel. So if you are a teacher, or a policeman, or a clerk of a public authority then you may not wear scarfs, or Baghwan charms. Now in France this is even the case for PUPILS. posted by knn |
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fatpie42: What do you mean by 'materialism'? Actually the term they always use regarding France is ›laicism‹ posted by knn |
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Marl64: No Really, who gives a flying fart?
Bill Gates was made an honorary Knight of the UK or something, so what? I think the whole case is a little misleading. As always it goes like this: Guy #1 wants something. Guy #2 doesn't want, so he holds up a reason about which there cannot be any argueing. Example: John wants a job. The boss doesn't like John. So the boss says "We don't look for someone" or "Unfortunately we need someone taller". You know it from politics. Noone likes Politician #1, but he didn't do any wrong. So he is transfered away to another job with higher pay but less influence. Or: He is fired after the slightest scandal. These are only reasons _on the surface_ posted by knn |
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Marl64: ...Dispite the fact that the school had a strict uniform dress code (which didn't include headscarves) when she applied to attend there.
The dress code has now been relaxed in favour of religious tolerance. No, that was the whole controversy. It DID allow headscarves especially for muslim pupils. However, the pupil had recently converted to a more radical set of muslim beliefs and had worn a BIGGER headscarf to school. Since the bigger headscarf was not part of uniform she was asked to either stop wearing it or to leave the school. Anyway, she won the case. It looks like it was a tricky case to decide. posted by fatpie42 |
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fatpie42: ...a more radical set of muslim beliefs and had worn a BIGGER headscarf... Brilliant, like some Potty-Time Character 
I couldn't help thinking of 
"You can tell how radical she is, look at the size of that scarf"
(BTW, I'm not mocking, I really do find it hillarious) posted by Marl64 |
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