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The #1 biggest difference is that, almost without exception, while US citizens are not what they used to be in terms of national character, other countries are exactly what they used to be. The Chinese are xenophobic, the French are obnoxious, the Mexicans are lazy, etc., and Americans are maybe a combination of all these countries from which our people derive. But the truth is, given the opportunity, the Japanese would invade China again, the British would try to colonize the world, the Germans would start rounding up Jews, and so on, but I guarantee you, Americans would not be bringing boatloads of African slaves over again! Why not? Because we have to live with the consequences of our actions in our own country...look at crime statistics! And we would not be arming the populace to kill off the Indians because we now have a huge gun violence problem. Since when has the holocaust caused problems for any postwar German? Never! And you can tell because Germans are still like that! I always laugh when I see the next immigrant group (currently it's Hispanics) that comes here, claims "racial discrimination," and declares its intent to make the US over in its own image. It will never happen because we were never culturally "pure" in the first place, so there's no way a particular group can succesfully portray another group as the enemy. We were always a mixture of cultures. Now if I were a European, I would be seriously worried about the culture wars, because it seems obvious to me that a lot of people move to Europe and make no attempt to become a part of the culture, and for good reason too: Europe is traditionally white. Even people who were slightly different (like Jews) were treated for millenia as second-class citizens. Some morons think America is white because the founders were white, but this is like saying America is Lakota Indian because some of the earliest inhabitants were Lakota Indian, or saying America is black because a lot of the physical infrastructure was built by black labor. It is very true that Americans do not have the same mental and physical vigor that their ancestors in America displayed. But I would much rather this be the case than the other way around like other countries where people follow exactly the same patterns as their ancestors did. How stupid! And boring!


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And Canada would go back to...?
holy_of_holies:
And we would not be arming the populace to kill off the Indians because we now have a huge gun violence problem.

If that is you'r only reason for not killing off Indians then America has a few serious problems.
holy_of_holies:
I guarantee you, Americans would not be bringing boatloads of African slaves over again! Why not? Because we have to live with the consequences of our actions in our own country

No But no Germans ever had to deal with the holocaust no way never...wait how about the Berlin bombings and being inprisoned in Russian camps I learned something new, I guess
holy_of_holies:
Now if I were a European, I would be seriously worried about the culture wars

No you would be the same person on this same forum except for positions about America and Europe would be reversed. White laugh
holy_of_holies:
Some morons think America is white because the founders were white, but this is like saying America is Lakota Indian because some of the earliest inhabitants were Lakota Indian, or saying America is black because a lot of the physical infrastructure was built by black labor.

You do nopt realize this is applicable to Europe as well, mabye not applicable to countries like China but certainly to Europe.


posted by Kupov
  


Kupov:
And Canada would go back to...?

I don't know...having sex with a moose? What was your name again?
Kupov:
holy_of_holies:
And we would not be arming the populace to kill off the Indians because we now have a huge gun violence problem.

If that is you'r only reason for not killing off Indians then America has a few serious problems.

What? You obviously did not understand my point; read it again...
Kupov:
holy_of_holies:
I guarantee you, Americans would not be bringing boatloads of African slaves over again! Why not? Because we have to live with the consequences of our actions in our own country

No But no Germans ever had to deal with the holocaust no way never...wait how about the Berlin bombings and being inprisoned in Russian camps I learned something new, I guess

That had nothing to do with the holocaust and everything to do with the war. They got into a war with the Allies and got what they deserved. End of story.
Kupov:
holy_of_holies:
Now if I were a European, I would be seriously worried about the culture wars

No you would be the same person on this same forum except for positions about America and Europe would be reversed. White laugh

If that were the case I would be wrong.
Kupov:
holy_of_holies:
Some morons think America is white because the founders were white, but this is like saying America is Lakota Indian because some of the earliest inhabitants were Lakota Indian, or saying America is black because a lot of the physical infrastructure was built by black labor.

You do nopt realize this is applicable to Europe as well, mabye not applicable to countries like China but certainly to Europe.

I should take a poll...is Europe traditionally a white continent?


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holy_of_holies:
I don't know...having sex with a moose?

White laugh
holy_of_holies:
That had nothing to do with the holocaust and everything to do with the war. They got into a war with the Allies and got what they deserved. End of story.

How is slavery different? oh right you did notget what you deserved.


posted by Kupov
  

Slavery in Canada


Kupov:
holy_of_holies:
That had nothing to do with the holocaust and everything to do with the war. They got into a war with the Allies and got what they deserved. End of story.

How is slavery different? oh right you did notget what you deserved.

Just after the American Revolution ended in 1783, British Loyalists brought over 2,000 African slaves to British Canada. Approximately 1,200 of the African slaves were taken to Nova Scotia, 300 to Quebec (Lower Canada) and 500 to Ontario (Upper Canada). A few others were taken to Prince Edward Island, Cape Breton Island, and Newfoundland.

Historian Marcel Trudel has recorded 4092 slaves throughout Canadian history, of which 2692 were aboriginal people, owned mostly by the French, and 1400 blacks owned mostly by the British, together owned by approximately 1400 masters.

The region of Montreal dominated with 2077 slaves, compared to 1059 for Quebec City overall and 114 for Trois-Rivières. Several marriages took place between French colonists and slaves: 31 unions with aboriginal slaves and 8 with black slaves.




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posted by holy_of_holies
  

Sorry, but



i don't think mexicans are lazy No no my friend many of them go to USA & work harder then horses & they also do really shitty works to get by

posted by a
  

Mona Lisa was white...so?



Holy_of_holies:
Kupov what colour is this woman?

So?


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Re: Sorry, but


a:
i don't think mexicans are lazy No no my friend many of them go to USA & work harder then horses & they also do really shitty works to get by

Of course they work hard in the US, but then they are not Mexicans anymore, they are US residents or citizens. I'm just saying, look at Mexico, the way it's run and the way the people behave. That's a lazy country.


posted by holy_of_holies
  



holy_of_holies:
I'm just saying, look at Mexico, the way it's run and the way the people behave. That's a lazy country.

maybe YOU think its a "lazy country" because of the way they run things...but maybe that's just their lifestyle, maybe its just different than american lifestyle of working your fingers to the bone...maybe its just that they have a different perspective on life and don't take the same things such as work as seriously as americans do you know what i mean? like...if you go to any european/middle eastern countries for example, (i don't know if they have these in mexico) but they have siestas where they close their shops from about 1-3pm because of the heat during the day, they go home chill with their families eat something and then go back to work until 5 or whatever. that does not mean they're lazy, that just means that they work to live, not live to work like we do here...its just a different perspective on working to earn a living. they don't take life for granted there at all.

How do people behave there? Whats it to you?


posted by gkiss
  


gkiss:
holy_of_holies:
I'm just saying, look at Mexico, the way it's run and the way the people behave. That's a lazy country.

maybe YOU think its a "lazy country" because of the way they run things...but maybe that's just their lifestyle, maybe its just different than american lifestyle of working your fingers to the bone...maybe its just that they have a different perspective on life and don't take the same things such as work as seriously as americans do you know what i mean?

Yes I know what you mean; I've been to a Latin American country and the whole place smelled like diarrhea except out in the jungle, and the people were all busy tearing down the jungle to build more diarrhea-smelling settlements; plus I got dysentery from eating the food. Also remember that many of those Latin American countries have been around longer than the US, and they are among the poorest countries in the world - while the US is the richest - ever wonder why that is? Lazy people and bad rulers. We have to deal with the constant tide of their immigrants to the US who, while they are hard workers when there is money to be made, are also more prone to commit crimes than any racial group except blacks. The rulers of Latin American countries know that they can dump their unemployed and criminal element into the US - where the money is to be made - so the rulers have no incentive to improve the lives of their people. The rulers go on living like kings and tacitly encouraging illegal immigration and drug smuggling into the US while their people starve.
gkiss:
like...if you go to any european/middle eastern countries for example, (i don't know if they have these in mexico) but they have siestas where they close their shops from about 1-3pm because of the heat during the day, they go home chill with their families eat something and then go back to work until 5 or whatever.

Exactly and this why their economy is shit; able-bodied people who do not work hard enough to support the country.
gkiss:
that does not mean they're lazy, that just means that they work to live, not live to work like we do here...its just a different perspective on working to earn a living. they don't take life for granted there at all.

Yes but they take for granted that my government will always be there to save them from their own laziness and lack of democratic principles.
gkiss:
How do people behave there? Whats it to you?

I have no idea what this could mean.


posted by holy_of_holies
  



holy_of_holies:
I have no idea what this could mean.

well you answered my first question of how they behave in your response. but my second question is asking you how it affects you personally...do you feel that they are taking something for nothing kinda thing? i just want to know how their "laziness" affects you personally.
holy_of_holies:
people were all busy tearing down the jungle to build more diarrhea-smelling settlements; plus I got dysentery from eating the food.

yeah and these are the conditions they are living in. why do they have to tear down precious rainforest and natural space just so they can go on living in shit infested settlements? there has to be a reason why anyone would have no other choice but to do that...and maybe the reason is bigger than they are and they are helpless to change it?
holy_of_holies:
The rulers of Latin American countries know that they can dump their unemployed and criminal element into the US - where the money is to be made - so the rulers have no incentive to improve the lives of their people. The rulers go on living like kings and tacitly encouraging illegal immigration and drug smuggling into the US while their people starve.

exactly that answers my question so...really its not their fault, that doesnt make them "lazy" people...im sure they don't want to live the lives that they do, they don't want to commit crime and do all that stuff, live in poverty etc...its not their fault. it seems like they're just passed off onto you, the latin american leaders are saying here...they're youre problem now you take care of them...which is unfair and then they get trapped in this self fulfilling prophecy of feeling like theyre always going to be someone else's problem because they have no where to go, no where to work, nothing to do, no real identity, no one wants to give them a chance or a hand up, they're stuck in this cycle you know? im just saying that its not that individual's fault or that individuals fault...its a bigger issue that transcends the mexicans as a people. but i do understand your points...


posted by gkiss
  


gkiss:
holy_of_holies:
I have no idea what this could mean.

well you answered my first question of how they behave in your response. but my second question is asking you how it affects you personally...do you feel that they are taking something for nothing kinda thing? i just want to know how their "laziness" affects you personally.

Well I live in a Florida which has a huge immigrant population, especially Miami. Miami used to be a beautiful city...now it is a shabby hellhole; northern retirees and immigrants made sure of that. Miami now has the highest percentage of immigrant population in the world (Toronto is #2I don't know what to do) and all those immigrants create a vector for drugs to enter the country. I live a few minutes from Interstate 10, which, as it crosses the country to Los Angeles, I am sure acts as a corridor for drug smugglers. And drugs bring violence and criminal syndicates to our shores, so immigration directly affects me and my family. You should see the kids who come up to Tallahassee from Miami every year to attend Florida State University (where my father teaches). Some of them are okay, but a lot of them are just obnoxious, scuzzy, and prone to violence if anyone "disrespects" them. I've started to see signs of gang activity in Tallahassee; gang "tags" (graffiti) and such. It's rather obvious to me that North America is being invaded by groups of people who have contributed nothing to its development as a nation, and who care little for its history, government, or tradtions aside from what they can gain from it. There is no concept of national service among these people, and it shows...their primary motivations are selfish. Look at the countries they come from if you want a picture of a potential future for America without controls on immigration. If the Spanish had conquered all of America instead of just Mexico and Central and South America, and the whole continent was Hispanic, there would have been no such thing as democracy in America. Maybe that's what the immigrants want, anyway.


posted by holy_of_holies
  



holy_of_holies:
Latin American countries have been around longer than the US, and they are among the poorest countries in the world - while the US is the richest - ever wonder why that is?

Slavery made you guys pretty rich.
holy_of_holies:
Yes but they take for granted that my government will always be there to save them from their own laziness and lack of democratic principles.

Now you say that poor people on wellfare are lazy? no way, i know people on wellfare who work two shit jobs for 10 hours a day. but they are still on welfare working a lot harder then you.
holy_of_holies:
It's rather obvious to me that North America is being invaded by groups of people who have contributed nothing to its development as a nation,

And you what? founded America?


posted by Kupov
  


Kupov:
holy_of_holies:
Latin American countries have been around longer than the US, and they are among the poorest countries in the world - while the US is the richest - ever wonder why that is?

Slavery made you guys pretty rich.

So America's wealth is based on our agriculture? Just answer me that, and I will tell you what I think of your little theory.
Kupov:
holy_of_holies:
Yes but they take for granted that my government will always be there to save them from their own laziness and lack of democratic principles.

Now you say that poor people on wellfare are lazy? no way, i know people on wellfare who work two shit jobs for 10 hours a day. but they are still on welfare working a lot harder then you.

I was talking about people in other countries who expect to be rescued by immigrating to America, not about any particular economic group in any country.
Kupov:
holy_of_holies:
It's rather obvious to me that North America is being invaded by groups of people who have contributed nothing to its development as a nation,

And you what? founded America?

No but my family has a tradition of public service to the US. For instance, how many of these immigrants do you think come to the US hoping to be drafted into the army? If we started drafting immigrants or natives now the spoiled people of this country would go beserk. But that is exactly what needs to be done.


posted by holy_of_holies
  

Re: The Difference Between the USA and Other Countries



holy_of_holies:
the Germans would start rounding up Jews (...) Since when has the holocaust caused problems for any postwar German? Never! And you can tell because Germans are still like that!

You would know, holy... Mushugga


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