»The Mental Illness Thread«
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 Use this thread to discuss anything related to mental illness.  Francesca Allan: soul-destroying drugs LOL, if psychiatric drugs are soul-destroying, that means that, since I have been on just about every psychiatric drug on the market, I no longer have a soul! What a nice sentiment Francesca! 
And they say antipsychiatry activists have no compassion for people living with serious mental illnesses! [CLICK HERE TO VIEW THIS PICTURE] posted by MindSlave |
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MindSlave: LOL, if psychiatric drugs are soul-destroying, that means that, since I have been on just about every psychiatric drug on the market, I no longer have a soul! What a nice sentiment Francesca! You've got plenty of soul, Holy. Otherwise, you wouldn't have survived all you've been through. You've got soul to burn. Not everybody's so lucky. posted by Francesca Allan |
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 MindSlave: LOL, if psychiatric drugs are soul-destroying, that means that, since I have been on just about every psychiatric drug on the market, I no longer have a soul! No, it means that your soul has been started to get destroyed. The proof lies in this: How well could you survive without any further drugs? Better or worse than before you took them? posted by knn |
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knn: No, it means that your soul has been started to get destroyed.
The proof lies in this: How well could you survive without any further drugs? Better or worse than before you took them? That's an outdated and uninformed concept of mental illness, that it is somehow curable or fixable. Mental illness is a disability like being born with only one arm: you're not going to grow another arm no matter what happens. You might get a prosthetic arm that helps you function more normally, but there is always something missing in the body itself. Psychiatric medication is like that prosthetic arm. I am better off for having taken psychiatric medication, but that does not mean that if I stop taking it (i.e. throw away my prosthetic arm) I will remain better off, because what is broken has not been fixed. The situation has been only temporarily improved for the purposes of survival and trying to have a normal life, even though I am ready to admit at this point that a normal life is next to impossible for me. But at least I'm alive , thanks to Mindslavery brand psychiatry (TM) . The only difference between being born with one arm and being born with a mental illness is that the mental illness itself is invisible to the naked eye, unlike the missing arm, which is obvious to everyone who sees the person. So people who lack understanding and compassion for the mentally ill, like Francesca Allan and you knn, are able to claim that mental illness is not real or is caused by demons, and no one can prove you wrong because science hasn't yet advanced to the point where the causes of mental illness can be definitely pinpointed. You wouldn't tell a person born with one arm, "Demons ate your missing arm, so pray against demons if you want to improve your situation." But you have no problem with applying that same tactic against me because you can't visually see into my brain and tell that I am mentally ill. People forget that all through the Middle Ages in Europe and even later in America, this same argument was applied to many mentally ill people (women mostly) to accuse them of witchcraft and legally kill them, because mental illness was even less understood back then than it is now. [CLICK HERE TO VIEW THIS PICTURE] posted by MindSlave |
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MindSlave: That's an outdated and uninformed concept of mental illness, that it is somehow curable or fixable. It's only outdated because psychiatry CLAIMS it is not curable BECAUSE THEY cannot cure it. Moreover you are changing the topic thus your whole post is offtopic. And with not a single sentence have you replied to my proof-of-concept. posted by knn |
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knn: MindSlave: That's an outdated and uninformed concept of mental illness, that it is somehow curable or fixable. It's only outdated because psychiatry CLAIMS it is not curable BECAUSE THEY cannot cure it. So? Just because you lack a basic understanding of biological science - as evidenced by your posts supporting a designed evolution of life - doesn't mean the rest of us have to follow you into that little mudhole. knn: Moreover you are changing the topic thus your whole post is offtopic. Topic changed.  knn: And with not a single sentence have you replied to my proof-of-concept. You were conflating a scientific concept (medication) with a religious concept (the soul), and thus you were asking the impossible by requesting proof that the two are not related, so I just wrote about what I wanted. Too bad you started your attack on the treatment of mental illness with one of my posts, eh knn? 
posted by MindSlave |
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MindSlave: So? Just because you lack a basic understanding of biological science - as evidenced by your posts supporting a designed evolution of life What the heck? I never stated life was designed. posted by knn |
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MindSlave: That's an outdated and uninformed concept of mental illness, that it is somehow curable or fixable. No, Holy, knn is completely right on this point. What we refer to as mental illness is always manageable, except when psychiatry gets involved. Psychiatry takes a vulnerable person in a crisis and sets them up for a lifetime of disability. Long range outcomes for schizophrenia are significantly better *without* psychiatric intervention. There is no compelling scientific evidence for any brain chemical imbalance or other disorder as a cause of mental illness. This is why the treatment of mental illness is done through psychiatry, a branch of pseudo-medicine. If mental illness were truly a brain disorder (such as Parkinson's or Alzheimer's), then the field of neurobiology would take over. That's not going to happen with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder because they're not brain disorders, but rather very loosely linked groups of symptoms. With all of modern medicine at our fingertips, there is still no objective test for mental illness, i.e. you can't have a doctor look at your CAT scan and say "Aha, this brain is schizophrenic." Every other disease has an underlying tissue pathology. Without that pathology, it is incorrect to even call something an illness. Psychiatry, when assessed as a branch of medicine, is a miserable failure. The whole field belongs with astrology. posted by Francesca Allan |
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