»30 years prison for teen sex parties. Isn't that too much?«
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 A United States housewife who had sex with teenage schoolboys, plying them with drugs and alcohol in her bid to be a "cool mom", has been jailed for 30 years.
Silvia Johnson, 41, told police she threw sex parties for teenage boys in her home because she wanted to belong to a popular crowd, something that had escaped her in her own youth. She was sentenced in Colorado on Monday. Johnson was found guilty of having sex with five teenagers, including her daughter's boyfriend. She admitted only two counts. Carl Blesch, spokesperson for the Jefferson county district attorney's office, said Johnson pleaded guilty to nine counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor, as well as two counts of sexual assault on minors, boys aged around 15. Amphetamines and alcohol were provided "The charges were related to the parties at her home, at which she admitted that amphetamines and alcohol were provided at different times to children and that she had sexual relations with two minor boys," said Blesch. "We often think of male perpetrators in sexual assault cases, but Ms Johnson indicated in a statement to the police that she had not been a popular person in her youth and hence wanted to be seen as 'cool'. "It was her intention to convey the impression that she was their friend and that she was cool and 'in' because she had not felt popular when she was at school," he added. Johnson sobbed and apologised before US district Jude Peter Weir imposed his sentence in the city of Golden. "I've learnt my lesson," she said. "I know I've hurt so many people - not only the boys, but my own family. I know I have a mental illness. I take full responsibility for what I've done. I'm sorry." Her actions were not "cool" Johnson told police she suffered from bipolar disorder and attention deficit hyperactivity and that she used methamphetamine to control the symptoms. Her lawyer requested court leniency due to her condition. However, Weir made it clear he did not consider her actions with the boys to be "cool". "You said you wanted your daughter and her friends to consider you a cool mom," Weir said. "A cool mom provides a safe environment for her children and their friends. You provided drugs. A cool mom provides advice and guidance. You provided beer and hard liquor. A cool mom provides love. You provided sex," said Weir. Added to Johnson's sentence were convictions for flouting restraining orders and for third degree assault. According to Blesch, she had contacted her ex-husband and her children in violation of court orders. What the heck is wrong with the US? How can you get 30 years for such a thing? 
In other countries that would be the punishment for mass murder or genocide.. and having sex with 15 year old boys wouldn't even be forbidden. posted by knn |
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| in-my-opinion.orgPoliticsPolitics and Crime (Assorted topics)30 years prison for teen sex parties. Isn't that too much? |
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 knn: What the heck is wrong with the US? How can you get 30 years for such a thing? It's part of the "war on drugs" and the notion of "sexual predators" based on our version of social engineering. In some other countries, they address the root of the social problem or disorder; the US addresses the symptoms. Due to our history as a frontier democracy, many Americans don't have the same collective memory of this approach having failed in the past, leading to such things as the French Revolution in Europe, so we think we can just warehouse our problem citizens in prisons for as long as possible. We seem to prefer an Old West scenario of "swift and sure justice," which is often anything but that. A better solution would be to try and rehabilitate our problem citizens, unless it can be determined that they are sure to reoffend, as in the case of the most dangerous pedophiles, in which case they should be electronically monitored. All lengthy jail or prison terms do is make hardened criminals out of small-time mischief-makers. posted by MindSlave |
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MindSlave: A better solution would be to try and rehabilitate our problem citizens, unless it can be determined that they are sure to reoffend, as in the case of the most dangerous pedophiles, What has this case to do with pedophiles? MindSlave: It's part of the "war on drugs" Probably the kids themselves wanted the drugs... posted by knn |
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KNN: What has this case to do with pedophiles? The woman was 41 the boys were 15. By U.S. law that makes her a pedophile. posted by Laraimaem |
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 h_o_h: All lengthy jail or prison terms do is make hardened criminals out of small-time mischief-makers. A small-time mischief-maker has one sexual incident with one teenager. This woman was having regular sex with multiple teenagers and supplying them with alcohol and drugs. That's not a small-time mischief-maker. posted by Tiefling |
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She's about on the borderline between serious criminality and mischief, I'd say. As crimes go, sex with fifteen-year-olds and supplying drugs to minors is pretty common stuff, and there are people out there in the US who have murdered and gotten lesser terms than that. Most states make a differentiation between sex with a minor under a certain age, often 14 (presumably not yet sexually mature,) and sex with a minor over that age. So, I disagree, I think this is petty stuff. posted by MindSlave |
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MindSlave : As crimes go, sex with fifteen-year-olds and supplying drugs to minors is pretty common stuff Just because it is common does not make it any less serious. Adults having sex with teenagers is against the law. Providing illegal drugs to anyone, especially minors is against the law. Simple as that. Also, this woman is a repeate offender, so it is anything but petty! She isn't at all sorry about what she was doing, or she wouldn't have kept doing it. She was just sorry she got caught. MindSlave: there are people out there in the US who have murdered and gotten lesser terms than that. This is an entirely different subject... posted by Laraimaem |
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Laraimaem: Just because it is common does not make it any less serious. Adults having sex with teenagers is against the law. Providing illegal drugs to anyone, especially minors is against the law. Simple as that. See, that attitude right there is the reason the United States has such a huge prison population. I'm not saying drug abuse or provision isn't bad, or sex with minor teenagers is harmless. But the reason we have jails and prisons is to prevent crime, and if you send people to prison virtually for life for something as relatively innocuous as sex with teenagers and drug pushing, then you are creating an environment where petty criminals go to jail for exorbitantly long terms. While in jail, they learn how to deal with a criminal element, make connections, and often become violent. Then they are loosed on society with very little supervision after their probation or parole finishes. Wouldn't a better solution be re-education or rehabilitation for something like this? Behavior can be modified, you know, it's not like we lack data to suggest that rehabilitation programs are useless for everybody...obviously the worst criminals are beyond correction, but I very much doubt that this admittedly freaky older lady is one of those. Laraimaem: Also, this woman is a repeate offender, so it is anything but petty! She isn't at all sorry about what she was doing, or she wouldn't have kept doing it. She was just sorry she got caught. You and I have different opinions on that. I thought her expression of remorse could very well have been genuine. You don't have enough data on her to make that judgement. posted by MindSlave |
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h_o_h: But the reason we have jails and prisons is to prevent crime How do you feel jails and prisons prevent crime? posted by Tiefling |
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Well considering she was having muliple parties, and she admits to having had sex with two teenagers, she is a repeat offender. In general, if a person does something they feel is wrong, and then feel remorse, the do not continue to do this thing. Do you feel she would have stopped trying to be "cool" had she not been caught? Had she made any attempts to no longer have these parties, before the authorities had been notified? As to rehabiitaion, people have to really want to change a behavior to do so. If she wasn't truly sorry, then no, rehab would not have worked. As for jail, I think jail is supposed to be a deterrent. For example, if I know I will go to prison for abusing children, then if I don' t want to go to prison, I won't abuse children. Also, I simply do not agree with your statements that her crimes are petty. Mindslave: Laraimaem:Also, this woman is a repeate offender, so it is anything but petty! She isn't at all sorry about what she was doing, or she wouldn't have kept doing it. She was just sorry she got caught.
You and I have different opinions on that. I thought her expression of remorse could very well have been genuine. You don't have enough data on her to make that judgement. You read the same article as I, so you, too sir, do not have enough data to make your judgement. 
posted by Laraimaem |
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Laraimaem: The woman was 41 the boys were 15. By U.S. law that makes her a pedophile. This is simply not true. Laraimaem: Just because it is common does not make it any less serious. It does. Laraimaem: Adults having sex with teenagers is against the law. Nearly nowhere it's against the law. Laraimaem: Providing illegal drugs to anyone, especially minors is against the law. Yeah, but not 30 years. Laraimaem: She isn't at all sorry about what she was doing She is. Mindslave: MindSlave:there are people out there in the US who have murdered and gotten lesser terms than that. Laraimaem: This is an entirely different subject... No, exactly THAT is the subject. posted by knn |
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Knn: Laraimaem:The woman was 41 the boys were 15. By U.S. law that makes her a pedophile.
This is simply not true. ped·o·phile ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pd-fl, pd-)
n. An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or children. Knn, in the U.S. anyone under the age of 18 is considered a child. So yes, a woman who is 41 having sex with a boy who is 15 is indeed a pedophile. Sorry, but it is true. Knn: Nearly nowhere it's against the law. Well it is where she lives. Knn: Yeah, but not 30 years. This is compounded for the sex crimes, the drug crimes, and the child abuse crimes. Knn: Laraimaem:She isn't at all sorry about what she was doing
She is. This is just a matter of opinion on my part. Did she make any attempt to stop these parties before the authorities had been notified? Or do anything to demonstrate remorse before she was arrested? If she did, then I will stand corrected. Perhaps Knn is a 15 year old boy who would like to have sex with an older woman? Hence the reason he is so willing to defend such a vile sex offender. posted by Laraimaem |
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MindSlave: See, that attitude right there is the reason the United States has such a huge prison population. It has the biggest of the world. Both absolutely and statistically. The sentences are absolutely ridiculous. MindSlave: I'm not saying drug abuse or provision isn't bad, or sex with minor teenagers is harmless. But the reason we have jails and prisons is to prevent crime, and if you send people to prison virtually for life for something as relatively innocuous as sex with teenagers and drug pushing, then you are creating an environment where petty criminals go to jail for exorbitantly long terms. Exactly. Now, I am the last one to say that drugs are good or harmless. But such prison sentences are too much. Massmurders killing 100 persons get less in other parts of the world (e.g. Europe). I remember 1 case pretty recently, where a German judge(!) had sex with a 13yro(!) boy(!) and was acquitted(!). And the reasons behind that were SOLID REAL LIFE REASONS like
Case closed. posted by knn |
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Laraimaem: Knn, in the U.S. anyone under the age of 18 is considered a child. This is wrong. Noone with 17 is considered a child. Moreover you were talking about "teenagers" which also includes 18 and 19.9 years-olds. Laraimaem: This is compounded for the sex crimes, the drug crimes, and the child abuse crimes. There were no sex crimes, since all was voluntary. There were not much drug crimes that would go much further than the usual stuff. "Child abuse" is an automatic term in the US for such cases. Has nothing to do whether someone has been abused or not. Laraimaem: Perhaps Knn is a 15 year old boy who would like to have sex with an older woman? Hence the reason he is so willing to defend such a vile sex offender. Listen, sex with people < 18 is not a crime. Nearly nowhere in the world. In Canada sex with 14yro is allowed. See IMO → Age of consent: Is 18 too old? posted by knn |
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Laraimaem: As for jail, I think jail is supposed to be a deterrent. For example, if I know I will go to prison for abusing children, then if I don' t want to go to prison, I won't abuse children. The crime stats prove you wrong, but that is another subject. USA is the most "enprisoned" country in the world with approx. as much crime as anywhere else (relatively per capita). Thus the US is doing something terribly wrong. posted by knn |
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