»Antipsychiatry-the real junk science«
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well, the rising tide of ignorance continues. the forces of antipsychiatry continue to march forward with their junk science trying to eradicate from the world the evils of psychiatry, oo, scary stuff. the truth is psychiatry could use some improvement to say the least, however, the cult level fanatacism of the antipsychiatry movement is disturbing. while no one organization, group or person runs this movement, it has been largely fueled by dr. thomas szasz, author of, the myth of mental illness, and the church of scientology, which is a cult. there is also the antipsychiatry coalition, their a real fun group! truth is i am a psychiatric patient who has used medication and electroshock therapy for bipolar disorder because mental illness does exist and it is biological. and yes i used the politically incorrect label of patient, on purpose. gary g pelow, gpelow@yahoo.com nov 20 2005 posted by gary pelow |
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 gary pelow: antipsychiatry-the real junk science Is anti-psychiatry a science? Does it claim so? Moreover, I don't think that movements against some areas of science need to be science, too: If you disagree with the statement of physics that claims that the universe is 12 billion years old then I think that it is valid to counter-claim non-scientifically: "Physics cannot know how old the universe is because they assume that what they see is the whole universe while they cannot know whether it's 200x bigger" I think that's a valid non-scientific counter-statement. If psychiatry claims "Beating up patients shuts them up, we call this 'Mechanical Therapy' and it helps greatly in 99% of the cases and the patients don't complain and we ran a scientific study on this with 20'000 patients" then it's OK for every anti-psychiatry movement to claim non-scientifically "Breaking bones of patients is bad". posted by knn |
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gary pelow: because mental illness does exist and it is biological Please start a new topic on that... posted by knn |
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 Thanks for your post, Gary. It's good to see that someone else out there is troubled by the use of political pressure to shame people out of seeking the treatment they need. Political activist groups like the ones inspired by Szasz and corporate religions like L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology have no place in scientific medicine. Thomas Szasz is a psychoanalyst with minimal experience treating people with severe mental illnesses like mine, and his works are the closest thing antipsychiatry activists have to an empirical basis for their irrational beliefs, thus it is obvious why antipsychiatry activists get so hung up when people insult the holy scriptures of Szasz. By the way, LSD guru Timothy Leary was a huge early proponent of Szasz's work, so if we are to judge Szasz by his fans, he would seem to be a relic of the 1960's counterculture, when all the hippies were blowing their minds on acid, believing all the time that there was no such thing as mentall illness, while the truly mentally ill suffered and died alone. posted by MindSlave |
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There's a lot more to anti-psychiatry than Szasz and the Church of Scientology and it's typical of the maintstream to try to paint us as Scientologists. Scientologists get a lot of press because they are wealthy and their members include Hollywood celebrities. However, anti-psychiatry as a movement is much larger than just the CofS. Although Szasz' work is still relevant and important, many researchers have furthered that pioneering work. Psychiatry is the ultimate junk science. Neurological causes have yet to be proved and, in my opinion, will never be proved. Psychiatry deals only with symptoms and rarely investigates the true cause of psychiatric disorders. If people feel helped by psychiatry, then that's great. Nobody is suggesting that patients not be able to apply their *informed* consent. The trouble is, though, that psychiatrists do not feel compelled to tell their patients about the true risks to treatment. Forced psychiatry (i.e. involuntary "treatment") is an entirely different animal. This is a legal/philosophical issue, not a medical one. posted by Francesca Allan |
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gary pelow: truth is i am a psychiatric patient who has used medication and electroshock therapy for bipolar disorder because mental illness does exist and it is biological How do you suppose that using psych drugs and electroshock proves either the existence of mental illness or its "biological" basis? posted by Francesca Allan |
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