»If you want to stop cruel dictators so much«
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 then go and attack Saudi Arabia. Hey did you know that Saudi Arabia actually has links with 9/11? Direct links! If Bush and Blair had said "It's about time we stopped Saddam's reign of terror once and for all" I'd have been happy. What they did instead was make up some bullshit about WMDs. It's pathetic. posted by fatpie42 |
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| in-my-opinion.orgPoliticsBush, Kerry, IraqIf you want to stop cruel dictators so much |
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 its not a matter of stopping every dictatorship throughout the world yes saudi arabia have a brutal human rights record with regard to punishment of crime etc...but those are their laws...they keep themselves to themselves...they don't threaten and harass andn invade their neighbours...they don't attempt covert proliferation of WMD'S...and they have a mutually beneficial relationship with the western world if there is one dictator i WOULD like to see removed...it would be mugabe of zimbabwe posted by the anomaly |
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 Quote: its not a matter of stopping every dictatorship throughout the world Topic change, anomaly! This is not about stopping dictators, this is about fake reasons to invade a country. posted by knn |
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the topic title is "if you want to stop dictators so much" posted by the anomaly |
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Quote: "if you want to stop dictators so much" So what? The topic TITLE is just 1 parameter. You have to stick of course to the WHOLE theme of the first post. posted by knn |
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the anomaly: they don't attempt covert proliferation of WMD'S... There's no proof that Iraq did that. the anomaly: and they have a mutually beneficial relationship with the western world does that include harbouring fundametalist islamic terrorist groups such as Al Quiaeda? posted by fatpie42 |
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 that's bullshit...too many damn topics and if we go off topic once then its warning and get booted for 3 days. this turned out to be super lame dude...peace out for a few weeks. posted by Agent Zero |
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the saudi's are further ahead than most middle eastern countries at tackling terrorism...they know the consequenses of not assisting the US with regard to terror...they do far more than syria and other countries like that as for the covert development of WMDs'...i think you will find that hundreds of military reports show the use of mobile chemical weapons factories as well as the duel use fixed factories...as well as attempts to aquire precursors for biological weapons after 1998(when the inspectors were THROWN OUT) posted by the anomaly |
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Quote: think you will find that hundreds of military reports show the use of mobile chemical weapons factories as well as the duel use fixed factories...as well as attempts to aquire precursors for biological weapons Yes, yes, yes. But Saddam wasn't attacked because of that. He was attacked because Blair said that his rockets can reach UK in 20 minutes. The attack was called pre-emptive strike, which makes a mockery of world history. None of it was true, thus the real reasons remain unclear. posted by knn |
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the fact is that this is the sole part that the media decided to latch onto it was not the only piece of information and intelligence that was put forward during the case for war it was a stupid descision by the government to try to make the situation more extreme if it was against the advice of the intelligence service but this still doesnt stop the fact that saddam was in "material breach" of his obligations and the UK is different from "uk targets" which were infact if memory recalls...UK military bases in cyprus which were in range of the missiles that iraq had obtained(this is from memory and may be wrong...i will have to check but cant be particularly bothered as its late  )
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then how come they still haven't found more than a few shells? posted by fatpie42 |
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 they wouldn't have found saddam w/o help, they won't find wmd without help... posted by The ONEder Man |
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of actual chemical content that has been unacounted for is roughly enough to fill an petrol road tanker...in a country the size of france...under constant threat of fire and terrorism so as far as i know the search hasn't really begun as the americans would like it to but again...the WMD's were never the single reason given for the war...so i don't see what the fuss is about even if they arent found posted by the anomaly |
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Quote: so as far as i know the search hasn't really begun It has ended already. US doesn't look for them anymore. And even IF they were found: Would be by chance and not something the CIA knew beforehand. posted by knn |
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 I know there are a few people here that don't really believe a lot of what moore says, but F-911 contains a lot of clips of prewar speeches of what others said. I includes the clip which shows the satellite photos of Iraq with all the locations of WMD clearly labelled and the message "as soon as we go in we'll prove this to you" They didn't 
Love it or hate it, F-911 is a good reminder of what people actually said rather than what they now claim they said. [CLICK HERE TO VIEW THIS PICTURE] posted by Marl64 |
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