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A priest was sued by an atheist for claiming that Jesus really existed.
An Italian judge heard arguments from lawyers on Friday on whether a small-town parish priest should stand trial for asserting that Jesus Christ existed.

The priest's accuser, an atheist, says the Roman Catholic Church has been deceiving people for 2 000 years with a fable that Christ existed and he accused the priest of violating two laws by furthering the assertion.
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Cascioli filed a criminal complaint against Righi, his old schoolmate, in 2002 after Righi wrote in a parish bulletin that Jesus did indeed exist , and that he was born of a couple named Mary and Joseph in Bethlehem and lived in Nazareth.

Cascioli claims that Righi's assertion violated two laws: so-called "abuse of popular belief" in which someone fraudulently deceives people; and "impersonation" in which someone gains by attributing a false name to someone.

"The point [of today's hearing] is not to establish whether Jesus existed or not, but if there is a question of possible fraud," Cascioli's attorney, Mauro Fonzo, told reporters before the hearing.

Cascioli says the church has been gaining financially by "impersonating" as Christ someone by the name of John of Gamala, the son of Judas from Gamala.

He has said he has little expectation that the case will succeed in overwhelmingly Roman Catholic Italy, but that he is merely going through necessary legal steps to reach the European Court of Human Rights, where he intends to accuse the church of what he calls "religious racism".

Righi (76) has stressed substantial historical evidence -- both Christian and non-Christian -- of Jesus' existence.

"Don Righi is innocent because he said and wrote what he has the duty to say and write," Righi's attorney, Severo Bruno, told reporters.

He said he had told Mautone during the hearing that Righi was not asserting a historical fact when he wrote of Jesus' existence, but rather "an expression of theological principles".

"When Don Righi spoke about Christ's humanity ... he was affirming that he needs to be considered as a man. What his name is, where he comes from or who his parents are is secondary," he said.

Fonza said he had argued that since the beginning of time there had been questions of Christ's existence and that the matter warranted discussion in the court.

"When somebody states a wrong fact, abusing the ignorance of people, and gains from that, that is one of the gravest crimes," Cascioli told reporters.

Righi's brother, Luigi Righi, attended the hearing and said his brother was "serene but bitter." - Sapa-AP


What do you think? Does the accuser have a chance at the European highest court? I wonder what the implication would be: Priests having to introduce their prayers that Jesus is maybe a figure like Zeus?


posted by knn

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knn:
The point [of today's hearing] is not to establish whether Jesus existed or not, but if there is a question of possible fraud

I don't understand the difference.


posted by sangu
  



sangu:
knn:
The point [of today's hearing] is not to establish whether Jesus existed or not, but if there is a question of possible fraud

I don't understand the difference.

The difference is that even if Jesus doesn't exist it is still possible that no one was being exploited through this mistake. If I write "Elvis lives!" I am not committing fraud because I do not gain anything through it. Even if I completely convince you of the truth of this false statement I still have nothing to gain from it.

The idea is that the Roman Catholic Church has been profiting from the belief that Jesus existed for centuries and this trial is intended to hold them accountable. I think a major problem here is that in order to commit fraud surely you need to realise you are doing it. Everyone in the Roman Catholic Church believes their BS so it's hardly like they are seeking to defraud anyone.


posted by fatpie42
  "The beauty of the Superman came to me as a shadow. What are the gods to me now!"

I FEEL LIKE I'M ON CRAZY PILLS.


This shit isn't real. I'm pretty agnostic myself but this is just ridiculous. It's like suing the director of Young Guns on the behalf of Billy the Kid.

posted by EvilElvisBush
  



Look, it's like writing:
"Zeus is a historical figure. He lived. That's accepted by every scientists. We as Zeusist believe that he has super powers."

While in fact it is only true to say: "It is NOT CLEAR whether Zeus lived or not".

posted by knn
  





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