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A 23-year-old middle-school teacher was charged with having sex with a 14-year-old student in a classroom, at her apartment and, once, in a vehicle while the teen's 15-year-old cousin drove.

Detectives said that the cousins provided matching statements incriminating Debra Beasley Lafave and that the 14-year-old described Lafave's apartment and her tattoos and birthmarks.

Lafave, who teaches reading in the Tampa suburb of Temple Terrace, was arrested there last week on lewd and lascivious battery charges, accused of having sex with the teen earlier this month at her apartment and in a portable classroom at Greco Middle School.



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posted by knn

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That's messed up beyond words!

posted by Reaganismyhero
  

Age of consent



Actually I don't know what the problem is here.
• Is it the boy's age? That wouldn't be forbidden in many countries
• Is it that the cousin was watching (= watching "porn" though not 18?)
• Is it because she was his teacher? That is forbidden in many countries.
• Is it because she was married? That is also forbidden in some countries.
• Is it because it was in a classroom?



posted by knn
  

The Real Problem



The real problem with this situation is that in America what that teacher did is called rape. It doesn't matter what other countries do because Americans have to obey their own laws. The fact that the cousin watched is just plain weird as far as I'm concerned but not something the teacher should have to take any blame for. The point though is that no matter where or when it happened or what the circumstances were she still broke the law and in a way that not only violates the law of the land but also the agreements she signed when she took the job with the school. (I'm assuming her contract included something about innapropriate sexual activity considering she worked for the school system)

posted by Reaganismyhero
  

Rape a boy



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The real problem with this situation is that in America what that teacher did is called rape

It's called rape, but is it? Can you really rape a boy?


posted by knn
  

Why does this matter?



Why wouldn't you be able to call it rape? The age of legal consent is 18 in America. Having sex with anyone below that age is called rape. It could have been that the government decided that 17 was the legal age when they made the law but they didn't. The age is the important part when the law is concerned. Besides, think about what would happen if somebody decided what determined rape was the gender of the minor. That's sexism isn't it?

posted by Reaganismyhero
  



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Why wouldn't you be able to call it rape? The age of legal consent is 18 in America

Is it?

-> in Iowa it's 14, isn't it?
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That's sexism isn't it?

Just body facts. How can you call it rape if he has an erection?


posted by knn
  

Take a closer look



KNN, if you took a closer look at both of those documents that you posted you would see that first of all, the teacher lives/teaches in florida. Second, on the very list you posted via weblink it says that the age of consent in Florida is 16/18. I'm not sure whether the age is 16 or 18 but it certainly isn't 14. Also, why does it matter if he had an erection? If the case came up in a court of law it would be very difficult to prove that the boy had an erection if that was the criterean that they used. The reason the law is gender neutral is so that criminals can't slip through the system on a technicality, like an erection. What if a 14 y/o boy was thumbing through a porno mag when an older man came into the room and took advantage of him. He still would have been raped even though he still had an erection when the deed happened. If the erection was the criterea for rape it makes it could make it much harder to convict that man in court b/c of bogus claims on both sides. If the man wanted to get off the charges all they'd have to do would be to say the boy had an erection so it was ok. Even if the boy did consent in the first place (which is against the law b/c of the age thing), what happens if he decides that he "felt violated" afterwards (which many women use as a good reason to report a man for sexual harrasment/rape) and decided to call the cops on the guy who raped him? Even though it's illegal anyway, he could say that he wasn't turned on and the rapist would go to jail. A good thing right? Not if you consider that he could do the same thing to someone who didn't he didn't have sex with (i.e. someone he had a grudge against) and get the poor guy thrown into jail. These lkinds aws have been thought through in the past by the people that made them. They also had to check for loopholes like the ones you're proposing. We're probably not going to be able to think of anything new that they didn't consider so let's not pretend to be original here.

posted by Reaganismyhero
  

US vs Florida



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KNN, if you took a closer look at both of those documents that you posted you would see that first of all, the teacher lives/teaches in florida

I was replying to your words that the age of consent is 18 in US, while it is not 18 in whole US.
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These laws have been thought through in the past by the people that made them. We're probably not going to be able to think of anything new that they didn't consider so let's not pretend to be original here.

If it was so simple the age of consent would be equal around the world. However that's a topic change.


posted by knn
  

it's called statutory rape...



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Main Entry: statutory rape
Function: noun
: sexual intercourse with a person who is below the statutory age of consent

even if the boy was a willing participant the court says he is not old enough to consent to the act, even though he may think he is, just as if an older man did this to a young girl, they are not old enough to say wait this isn't a good idea because the older person can manipulate the situation to their advantage...like when child molesters give kids candy if they will let them touch them...they don't know anything is wrong, and certainly aren't old enough to tell the difference...


posted by The ONEder Man
  I know where you live. I will send a rape commando -- knn

Whatever...



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and certainly aren't old enough to tell the difference...

Yeah, but come on... the boy is 14. Puberty (including funny feelings) starts sometimes at 7. OK, whatever...


posted by knn
  



so you don't think the teacher manipulated the kid into having sex with her? i don't think if the kid propositioned her anything would have happened...anywayz, the real question is what drove her to this in the first place? she is married correct?

ps if this WAS the other way around, male teacher, female student, there would be an uproar...

posted by The ONEder Man
  

Shoulda known better



I was gonna say "statuatory rape" but it seems One-der-man has beaten me to it. The first part of the conversation was excruciating because of the lack of that term.

The fact is that 14 is a young age to have sex, even with people of your own age. Let's leave the fact that it is a boy, not a girl, out of this for now. An adult had sex with a minor and should have known better. The fact that it was his teacher and therefore had not a little authority over the child makes this even more worthy of concern.

posted by fatpie42
  "The beauty of the Superman came to me as a shadow. What are the gods to me now!"

More pics of her





Well, well, first the righties shout "Scandal" but then they (= fox news) don't hesitate to spice up their frontpage with such fotos of her. A pure reporters' duty, yeah, sure.

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posted by knn
  

Is this boy...



... lucky or unlucky? What do you think?

posted by knn
  



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