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x-men 3 anybody?
Oregon Health and Science University (OHSU), a school that has received criticism in the past for torturing monkeys in its labs, has officially been outed. Information has been brought to light about ridiculous “gay sheep” experiments that are being conducted at the school. You heard right—OHSU experimenter Charles Roselli is spending millions of taxpayer dollars to kill homosexual rams and cut open their brains in an attempt to find the hormone behind homosexual tendencies so that these tendencies can be changed. Roselli is also working with experimenter Frederick Stormshak of Oregon State University (OSU), who has surgically inserted an estrogen implant in the bodies of these rams in an effort “to restore tissue levels of estrogen comparable to those of heterosexual rams and affect sexual behavior accordingly.”

To put it simply, these experimenters believe that homosexuality is a defect that needs to be fixed, and they’re cutting open and killing gay sheep to do it. Roselli has made it very clear that he intends to use the findings of his experiments to “cure” humans next. In his application for public funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), he states that “this research also has broader implications for understanding the development and control of sexual motivation and mate selection across mammalian species, including humans.”


Jesus christ. The premise behind this experiment is more disgusting than the way they are carrying it out. Homosexuality is most definitely not a disorder (disorders have to be maladaptive).

But what if they actually did find a way to turn homosexuals into heterosexuals?


posted by CustomerDisservice
  

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CustomerDisservice:
Homosexuality is most definitely not a disorder

Says who? Oh, the gay media.

Homosexuality may be something that we cannot call disorder, since it's political incorrect. Yet, if you could find a "homo gene" I am sure that at least 95% of parents would decide to not get pregnant with a homo baby.
CustomerDisservice:
But what if they actually did find a way to turn homosexuals into heterosexuals?

More scary: What if they can turn heteros into homos?


posted by knn



knn:
Says who? Oh, the gay media.

The "gay media"? Erhm, no, sorry. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, actually, at least in the United States, and commonly internationally as well.



Homosexuality has not been considered a mental disorder since 1973.
The criteria and classification system of the DSM are based on the majority opinion of people who represent American mental health specialists. Therefore, the content of the DSM does not reflect all opinions on the subject of psychopathology, nor are there any objective standards to which it can adhere. The criteria, and the way they are applied by individual clinicians are at least to some extent influenced by cultural variables. What is and what is not considered a mental disorder changes over time. For example, several decades ago homosexuality was commonly considered a mental disorder, and it was listed in the DSM as such. Today, homosexuality is seen by most psychologists and psychiatrists as a normal sexual orientation.


knn:
Yet, if you could find a "homo gene" I am sure that at least 95% of parents would decide to not get pregnant with a homo baby.

Proof?
knn:
More scary: What if they can turn heteros into homos?

Why is that "more scary"?


posted by Tiefling
  



CustomerDisservice:
Jesus christ. The premise behind this experiment is more disgusting than the way they are carrying it out. Homosexuality is most definitely not a disorder (disorders have to be maladaptive).

I agree. Not only is the experiment twisted, but the purpose of the experiment is even more twisted.

At least in X-Men, the "mutants" were demonstrably dangerous. Homosexuals are in no way, shape or form a threat.


posted by Tiefling
  



Tiefling:
At least in X-Men, the "mutants" were demonstrably dangerous. Homosexuals are in no way, shape or form a threat.

I agree with you on this point...but there are those who will say and do feel as though homosexuality is a threat.


posted by allone
  



allone:
Tiefling:
At least in X-Men, the "mutants" were demonstrably dangerous. Homosexuals are in no way, shape or form a threat.

I agree with you on this point...but there are those who will say and do feel as though homosexuality is a threat.

Except that homos spread all kinds of illnesses: IMO → Homosexuality spreads AIDS, heterosexuality not really#31942


posted by knn
  



Tiefling:
Homosexuality has not been considered a mental disorder since 1973.

So? Just because some association says so doesn't make it true. The same association may change it's opinion in 50 years.

Their current opinion is not based on science but on political correctness.
The statement "Homosex is OK" has the same quality as "Homosex is not OK". Both are based on the level of acceptence in society and not on the truth. Because you would have to know everything about sexuality before you could make a statement that would be true.

Is beastiality OK (= human+animal sex)? If you'd know that your baby with be fixated on sex with goats and dogs and there would be a pill against it, would you use it? What if some psychiatrist association would claim that "It's normal"? And what if "It's not normal"?


posted by knn
  



There are some that strongly think that homosexual = pedophile.

posted by allone
  



allone:
homosexual = pedophile.

And most pedophiles ARE homosexuals. So, yes, aborting gay embryos could prevent child rapes.


posted by knn
  



knn:
Except that homos spread all kinds of illnesses:

If homosexuals spread illnesses, then the simplest means of avoiding said illnesses is not engaging in sex with homosexuals. Nobody's forcing you to become a homosexual.
knn:
Just because some association says so doesn't make it true.

Your argument is completely without logic. CustomerDisservice said that homosexuality is not a disorder. You asked according to whom homosexuality is not a disorder. I replied that the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders says homosexuality is not a disorder. Your response? "Well, just because most experts in psychology say that it's not a disorder, doesn't mean they're right."

I've demonstrated that most experts agree with CustomerDisservice. Now it's your turn to say who, outside of right-wing propaganda, believes that homosexuality is a disorder.
knn:
And most pedophiles ARE homosexuals. So, yes, aborting gay embryos could prevent child rapes.

Most murderers are males. So aborting male embryos could prevent murders.


posted by Tiefling
  



Tiefling:
Most murderers are males. So aborting male embryos could prevent murders.

But hardly any male is a murderer., while a lot of homosexuals ARE spreading diseases or are pedophile. Thus the ratio counts. If 50% of men would become murderers in their life time then, yes, aborting males would be discussable.
Tiefling:
If homosexuals spread illnesses, then the simplest means of avoiding said illnesses is not engaging in sex with homosexuals. Nobody's forcing you to become a homosexual.

As if all illnesses they spread are by sexual means.
Tiefling:
I've demonstrated that most experts agree with CustomerDisservice. Now it's your turn to say who, outside of right-wing propaganda, believes that homosexuality is a disorder.

Yes, it's true. Most experts believe that homosex is not a disorder. I tried to point out that this experts' opinion is a fashion and not necessarily true. In other words: The fashion may change in a few years and homo babies will be aborted en mass.


posted by knn
  



Moreover: EVEN IF homosex is the most natural thing in the world then parents may want to decide to have a heterosexual baby anyway. Just as you decide to have plastic surgery EVEN IF having a big nose is completely natural.

It's up to you.

posted by knn
  



knn:
And most pedophiles ARE homosexuals. So, yes, aborting gay embryos could prevent child rapes.

Tiefling:
Most murderers are males. So aborting male embryos could prevent murders.

knn:
If 50% of men would become murderers in their life time then, yes, aborting males would be discussable.

So you're claiming that 50% of all homosexuals rape children. Proof?
knn:
As if all illnesses they spread are by sexual means.

How else are homosexuals spreading disease, other than sexually, such that heterosexuals are not spreading disease?
knn:
Most experts believe that homosex is not a disorder.

And thus, I reiterate --- post proof of those experts who feel it is a disorder, outside of right-wing propaganda.


posted by Tiefling
  



Tiefling:
And thus, I reiterate --- post proof of those experts who feel it is a disorder, outside of right-wing propaganda.

There IS NO PROOF. Because it cannot be disproven. I agree with you that most experts claim that homosex is normal/ok.

But that is not the point. The point is that WHETHER OR NOT society/expert/right-wings believe that homosex is a disorder, parents maybe should have the right to do something against getting a gay child.


posted by knn
  



knn:
But that is not the point. The point is that WHETHER OR NOT society/expert/right-wings believe that homosex is a disorder, parents maybe should have the right to do something against getting a gay child.

Actually, CustomerDisservice's point was that homosexuality is not a disorder, and yet an inhumane, taxpayer-funded experiment is being conducted in an attempt to root out homosexuality.


posted by Tiefling
  



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