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I can't believe so many people vote to set Saddam Hussein free. Behold, the climax of liberal thinking. posted by stinkz |
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stinkz: I can't believe so many people vote to set Saddam Hussein free. They simply don't believe in punishment. Or they believe that his lost powers are punishment enough. posted by knn |
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knn: They simply don't believe in punishment. What a surprise. Even the moral principle of Justice is quickly being put aside, to make way for more "tolerance." posted by stinkz |
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stinkz: What a surprise. Even the moral principle of Justice is quickly being put aside, to make way for more "tolerance." Infinite justice doesn't include punishment but enlightment. posted by knn |
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stinkz: knn: They simply don't believe in punishment. What a surprise. Even the moral principle of Justice is quickly being put aside, to make way for more "tolerance." But Stinkz, You're a Christian aren't you? Aren't Tollerance and forgiveness cornerstones of your faith? Shouldn't punishment be the responsibility of God, after all only God can have a clear and inbiased understanding of the whole situation. For anyone else to pass judgement would just be presumptuous ...or was the Spanish Inquisition right all along posted by Marl64 |
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marl64: Aren't Tollerance and forgiveness cornerstones of your faith? Yes. Both tolerance and forgiveness are virtues, though they are not the only ones. I see no reason for pushing these specific moral values, to the exclusion of all others. Also, they are not virtues upon which a government should be based. Can you imagine a government system that is so tolerant that it excludes justice? Such a system would be terrible. marl64: For anyone else to pass judgement would just be presumptuous Do you mean to say that the government has no right to "pass judgement" too? posted by stinkz |
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stinkz: marl64: For anyone else to pass judgement would just be presumptuous Do you mean to say that the government has no right to "pass judgement" too? I'm saying A Christian Government hasn't that right. To be punished twice for the same crime is unjust, which is the case if a person is punished on earth AND in heaven. One of my reasons for supporting the seperation of Church and State. posted by Marl64 |
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Marl64: You're a Christian aren't you? Aren't Tollerance and forgiveness cornerstones of your faith? No, the forgiveness is only granted when you stop your immoral acts. Jesus didn't forgive whores only to let them continue their life style. But as soon as they honestly repented they were open-heartedly accepted. Marl64: Shouldn't punishment be the responsibility of God, after all only God can have a clear and inbiased understanding of the whole situation. Basically yes, but god obviously allows deputies (= popes) and confessions posted by knn |
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marl64: To be punished twice for the same crime is unjust, which is the case if a person is punished on earth AND in heaven. So, you're saying we should let murderers roam free, because their punishment is in the next life? We shouldn't punish thieves either? Anarchy is the only choice? I don't see how that is at all logical. posted by stinkz |
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These are the two sides that I'm arguing with myself--This: fatpie42: If he's found guilty of ordering the mass killings which filled the mass graves then I think he is at least worth considering for the death penalty anyway. Add the political problems of keeping him alive and it's death death death all the way. and this: mymla: It seems to me that killing him might create even more problems. For those who support him and who are against new regime he will become a martyr. A person alive, in prison for the lifetime is kind of not that inspiring to fight and die for, than someone who suffered for Irqai people and died.
I think they won't sentence him to death. Both are very logical...that's why I can't decide... posted by nocturnal_anonymous |
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knn: Basically yes, but god obviously allows deputies (= popes) and confessions And where's that written? stinkz: marl64: To be punished twice for the same crime is unjust, which is the case if a person is punished on earth AND in heaven. So, you're saying we should let murderers roam free, because their punishment is in the next life? We shouldn't punish thieves either? Anarchy is the only choice? I don't see how that is at all logical. Hey, it's your belief system mate, you explain it. posted by Marl64 |
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Marl64: And where's that written? In the bible. But some say so, some say so... posted by knn |
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Quote: can't believe so many people vote to set Saddam Hussein free. Behold, the climax of liberal thinking. LOL that makes me laugh... I voted for slow torture...im a christian but i believe this man is pure evil, he deserves to get his balls cut off one at a time and that's only the beggining. He does not deserve to roam the streets. I like how marl trys to put stinkz in a bind with his talking...your trying to prove that stinkz is a hipocrit are you not? well ill tell you this every christian in cluding me is a hipcrit...i say we should be tolerant and stuff like that but yet i hate hussein...well that's being a hipocrit and i am very aware of it. Judge me how you like but I am content with who i am. posted by Agent Zero |
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Agent Zero: im a christian but i believe this man is pure evil Yeah, after all Saddam turned Iraq into a "terrorist breeding ground". Hey wait, that was the other guy... posted by knn |
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What can the US charge him for? And what legal authority does it have over Saddam Hussain? posted by Jonathan Howard |
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The time now is 7 January 2009, 21:57 php B.B. |