»Why doesn't god stop evil?«
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 Quote: And how would you know what was Evil if you didn't have Good. What a crazy idea is this again? That is just an excuse if you can't answer the question "Why doesn't god stop evil". You don't need to have theft in the world (=bad) just to have an absence of theft (=good). You simply could have a world where there is no theft. posted by knn |
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| in-my-opinion.orgReligion and Mysteries, from worship to werewolvesReligious & Philosophical TopicsWhy doesn't god stop evil? |
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 knnknn: That is just an excuse if you can't answer the question "Why doesn't god stop evil". Not at all. My answer is "Because Evil is Part of God's plan" My rational is (as I stated before) because they exist as a negation of the other. knnknn: You don't need to have theft in the world (=bad) just to have an absence of theft (=good). You simply could have a world where there is no theft. But theft is an Act, it is clearly defined and has no direct opposite (the absence of something is not the opposite) If anything the closest opposite of Theft (taking without consent) would be Charity (Giving without obligation) but that would be seen as nonesense. Evil is a concept, it's definition is vague and measurement of it is subjective. An act is deemed as evil if it goes against the persons view of "what is right" - their moral standpoint. It is contrary to their beleifs. Take an act you beleive is Evil and ask yourself why you consider it evil. Then look for an act that acheives the same result yet is not considered evil and compare the differences. I'd give an example, but don't beleive in good and evil (my beleif system doesn't require it of me) I simply use the terms for brevity in discussions. This doesn't mean I don't have morality or a sense of right and wrong. I just don't beleive in an unifying force responsible for all the wrong in the world. I see it as a cop out. "it's not his fault, he's just evil" 
posted by Marl64 |
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Quote: My answer is "Because Evil is Part of God's plan" Aah that's a different story, and means that evil must be somewhat good, since god is 100% good, thus god wouldn't allow evil otherwise. So this shifts the question a bit: "Why does god allow evil? What is so good about evil?" posted by knn |
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 ..don't think God is 100% good, i think he he is both good and evil. We need evil to know what good feels like. And to bring an analogy from The Matrix, the first Matrix was perfect, no pain or suffering, it was a dissaster. We define our existance with suffering and pain, we try not to feel these things and aspire to be happy. posted by Crossfade |
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Crossfade: ..don't think God is 100% good, I think he he is both good and evil. More simply, Good and Evil do not apply to God. Rules created by god are for the minions, those that follow are deemed good, those that don't are deemed Evil. God only wants obediant people in heaven - it's a method of selection (and ultimaltely control). God made the rules, but does not enforce them - this is the "Free Will" that people talk about. God Allows Evil, since it's the best way to determine who will follow orders and who wont - thus identifying who gets in (to heaven) and who doesn't. Life is just one big initiation test for God's exclusive club upstairs. simple eh? posted by Marl64 |
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just my luck i'll get to heavens gates and the bouncer will say "your names not down so you ain't comin' in!"  posted by Crossfade |
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(continued from my "Meaning of Life" post) So God has this club and want's to start the selection process, but he needs an instruction book - so people can "find the way to god" The Bible The Bible is a bit like a brochure for heaven, it gives instructions how to get there, what to expect and what rules apply. It tells of a basic induction test, which you need to pass to gain admission. This shouldn't take more than your entire life to complete. Sadly, it's a bit like a those Japanese Video Manuals you see that have been translated to English by someone who only has a basic grasp of both languages. Which is why people have so much difficulty figuring out what it's supposed to say and even more difficulty with the test. posted by Marl64 |
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Marl: I'd give an example, but don't beleive in good and evil (my beleif system doesn't require it of me) Thanks to your post debate-topics.com... I've found a beleif system which seems to share my view on this subject (at least in part). Quote: Why Evil?
No original sin, and no Satan and no evil. However it then wanders off a bit. Quote: People make "mistakes" due to ignorance of one's true nature as Perfect Mind and Love, which is God. Well, you can't have everything. 
posted by Marl64 |
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Quote: just my luck I'll get to heavens gates and the bouncer will say "your names not down so you ain't comin' in Tell him that your name is written at in-my-opinion.org 
posted by knn |
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I saved! praise the mighty KnnKnn! posted by Crossfade |
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 that still wont get you in, im so sorry to burst the bubble posted by Agent Zero |
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 Marl64: God Allows Evil, since it's the best way to determine who will follow orders and who wont - thus identifying who gets in (to heaven) and who doesn't. Why would God have created humans with the potential to disobey in the first place? Why would God set up a cosmic game to determine who gets into heaven? posted by Tiefling |
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Tiefling: Why would God have created humans with the potential to disobey in the first place? Why would God set up a cosmic game to determine who gets into heaven? Kinda makes you wonder if this whole "god in heaven" thing is just wishful thinking eh?
posted by Marl64 |
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Uhh... sorry if this is late or something, but "Good and evil" is like "Light and dark" you cant have one without the other. I guess its harder to explain on a forum than in a conversation, if you were in total darkness, then light would not exist. But then again, you could simply say good and evil were words, and they have to be defined to work out what they mean. My opinion is that the bible is a possibly made up from the imagination, I myself am a more "Matrix" believer. posted by The_Believer |
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The_Believer: My opinion is that the bible is a possibly made up from the imagination, I myself am a more "Matrix" believer. LOL then you yourself are more a "Hollywood dogshit" believer.
The Bible is much more true than the Matrix, I assure you. The Matrix is completely made up and fake, but geeks have somehow convinced themselves it is real. Some people also believe the Bible is true, but the Bible contains some historical facts, along with some distortions and some complete fabrications. Still, the few historical facts in the Bible place it above the Matrix when we compare the two in terms of historical validity. Please go back to  posted by MindSlavery Florida |
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