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Does god care?

   
God actively influences Planet Earth / Humans
33%
 33%  [ 9 ]
God does not even watch us / There is no god
33%
 33%  [ 9 ]
Don't know / Can't decide / God may care, but I don't
18%
 18%  [ 5 ]
God does not influence (but watches us)
14%
 14%  [ 4 ]
Number of users, who voted: 27
Number of counted votes: 27




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1) This poll tests your ideas regarding the Christian concepts of the influence of God on planet Earth.

2) For simplification this poll assumes that God and Satan are male.

posted by knn
  

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Involvment



Remarkable conincidences occur and we attribute them to God. To be honest, with all the amazing things to be seen in the world it would be silly not to say that God is involved.

We have already seen in other forums that it is daft to say that God started the universe off and then left (knowing that it would naturally develop in certain ways) because God is eternal and measurements of time are irrelevant to Him.

posted by fatpie42
  

Logic vs. God



Quote:
We have already seen in other forums that it is daft to say that God started the universe off and then left (knowing that it would naturally develop in certain ways) because God is eternal and measurements of time are irrelevant to Him.

So how do you know it's daft? if measures of time and logic don't apply to her?


posted by knn

I'm merely stating...



that such a suggestion puts unneccessary limits on God.

To say that God has to have created the universe and then left it to its own devices (whereby God already knows what the future holds for it) suggests that God does things as certain points in time. Since God is eternal he does not do things in any kind of 'fixed time' at all.

posted by fatpie42
  

Out of time?



Quote:
Since God is eternal he does not do things in any kind of 'fixed time' at all.

So she didn't leave because there is no leaving for a timeless god? Is that the point?


posted by knn
  

When I was walking down the stair, I met a man...



...who wasn't there.

When did she leave? Oh wait a moment that whole question makes no sense because she is timeless!

Even if she leaves she is then both there and not there eternally. The word "leave" suggests that at some point she was there. If she WAS there then at that point she was there 'eternally' ie. forever!

Of course she is omnipresent and omnipotent so there is no contradiction in having her leave and yet still be there Wink

posted by fatpie42
  "The beauty of the Superman came to me as a shadow. What are the gods to me now!"

Positionless



So god is timeless and positionless.

OK, let's agree.

But that doesn't mean god has always attention units on something. Thus although god may have no position in space/time god may very have something else to do.

posted by knn
  

well if your talking omniscient



then god might have something else to do but is doing it as well as everything else...the ultimate multi-tasker?

posted by The ONEder Man
  

Doing it vs Ability to do it



Quote:
but is doing it as well as everything else...the ultimate multi-tasker?

Doubtful, yet she HAS the ABILITY to do it.


posted by knn
  

if you have the ability



why wouldn't you be doing it? it wouldn't be a waste of time...you have no time and can handle every task of the mulitverse with ease...

unless you chose not to...that's a whole different ballgame...

posted by The ONEder Man
  

Drawbacks of being everywhere



Quote:
why wouldn't you be doing it?

Because you don't know the implications of "having your attention everywhere". Maybe that has some drawbacks.


posted by knn
  

Re: I'm merely stating...



fatpie42:
To say that God has to have created the universe and then left it to its own devices (whereby God already knows what the future holds for it) suggests that God does things as certain points in time. Since God is eternal he does not do things in any kind of 'fixed time' at all.

I used to write so much crap on this website, lol! Smile


posted by fatpie42
  

missing option



Needs a "I don't know / have no opinion" option. Don't forget us agnostics!

posted by Tiefling
  



knn:
1) This poll tests your ideas regarding the Christian concepts of the influence of God on planet Earth.

IF there is God... infinite, eternal, omni-everything - then God watches, but doesn't interfere, in my opinion.. IF there is God.

I have never seemed to be able to grasp infinity I don't know what to do White laugh
knn:
2) For simplification this poll assumes that God and Satan are male.

Why is He She everywhere then? You yourself have used 'she' everywhere.. or was that only for the poll?I learned something new, I guess


posted by ryder
  All your base are belong to us


Re: missing option



Tiefling:
Needs a "I don't know / have no opinion" option. Don't forget us agnostics!

Actually agnosticism would require an "I don't think it really matters" or "we cannot know" option. Agnostics claim that we cannot know whether God exists and therefore the issue of his existence (and presumably anything else that God might do or think) is unimportant.

I don't subscribe to this 'weak' agnosticism concept anymore. It's nonsensical. If you don't know whether centaurs exist you aren't 'agnostic' concerning the issue you either think they exist or you don't. If your gut reaction to a rumour concerning a centaur spotted locally or the discovery of fossilised centaur would be highly sceptical then you simply don't believe in centaurs. The fact that you cannot prove that centaurs don't exist (after all there are images of them on many greek/roman carvings) does not prevent you from rejecting the likelihood of their existence.

I am not agnostic about centaurs. I am not agnostic in the strong sense because I imagine that if centaurs did exist there must be, somewhere, the evidence to prove it. I am not agnostic in the weak sense because, even though I cannot prove that they don't exist, I don't believe in them and I feel the evidence points more strongly in one direction than the other (ie. towards them not existing).

Shall we make a new thread out of this?


posted by fatpie42
  



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